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Castle and Beckett's relationship
January 18, 2010
1:35 pm
MnCastleFan
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Doz, You are so smart, your thoughts about Beckett showing up are intentional to see Castle at home.

Here is what I want to happen:

Season 2
Undercover kiss at the end of the season 2. (Start of the season 3 at the latest.):laugh:

Season 3
Both Beckett and Castle having family time with each others family.
Thank you kiss on the cheek/head. love:
Beckett telling Castle that she would consider spending more time with him.
Chasing the suspect that killed Beckett mom.
Book #2 with dedication to Alexis (that would mean so much if he did not do that yet)

Season 4
Castle spending and using his status to WOW Beckett on 'secret' dates. (Let's see him spend tons of his money on her, that is what I would do to impress her and have some quality time with Beckett.)crazy2:
Real meaningful first kiss!
Closure on Becketts mom killing.
Book #3 with a dedication to his mom. (if he did not already)

Season 5
Book #4 with a dedication to Beckett and comments that he loves her! (she would just die – hehe)love:
Castle and Beckett being a couple in public. They both can finally move on with the relationship.

Season 6
Anything and Everything

What I do not what is:
A get together and breakup then get together.
Too many girlfriends/boyfriends coming and going.

Hooray for Season 3!
January 18, 2010
1:59 pm
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l like your list Mncastlefan

January 18, 2010
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@mncastlefan love it! Tho I don't like the wait you have on the relationship but I agree on the not breaking up and getting back together stuff that is anyoning and of course so are the other bfs and gfs

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January 18, 2010
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I like everyone's ideas for how to move their relationship forward, but I would caution against hoping for things to move forward on any particular timeline. This only sets you up personally for disappointment. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see something happen between the two, but I'm really enjoying their "jousting" (as Stana calls it) too.

As for how to sneak a kiss in, I've written a bit of fan fiction and posted it in the creative ideas forum on one idea for how it can happen. I did love the episode where Beckett poses as Castle's girlfriend and sneaks into the bar to rescue Castle from the Russian mobsters. I'd also love to see them both get stuck under the mistletoe at a Christmas party or, as one poster already said, hide from a potential suspect by kissing each other. Another idea I had, that involves both of them going undercover, would be both of them going undercover in a night club, Castle just being himself and Beckett as a performer. This way we get to hear her sing hopefully! Maybe they have to act like boyfriend/girlfriend or something.

Just some ideas that I've been mulling over.

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January 19, 2010
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I haven't read through this entire thread yet, so I apologize if anything I say is already well-trod ground…

I find the Castle/Beckett relationship very interesting… probably one of the more interesting and least straight-forward almost-couples that I've seen played–particularly given the fact that these two have such incredible chemistry… I also find it interesting that so many people are so eager to get them together whereas I'm quite happy with the pace that the writer's have set. I do think they're walking a very fine line, but thus far I have not seen them make a wrong step yet.

My take is that these are both two very defensive people but with two different kinds of defense mechanisms… everyone talks about Beckett's defenses–her "mom" issues or whatever… but what about Castle's? He seems like an open book and obviously plays to his glitzy lifestyle, but there's a complete disconnect between the guy he's supposed to be and the guy that we see him to be. There was a great quote I heard recently that went something like… "Never ever believe what a man says, only ever believe what he does"… Castle is a big talker and he can be the playboy brat when he opens his mouth, but we've all seen him be an unbelievably decent, honourable man in his actions. But in many ways, he's as closed as Beckett is… she asks him a straight question like "where did your fascination with the macabre come from?" and he spins her a complete line of nonsense rather than revealing something personal about himself… the closest we've seen him get real was that tiny snippet of a tale he told Beckett about Kyra, but even then he shut down almost immediately.

I also love the idea that these two people are a bit awe-struck by the other, but are reluctant to admit it. She won't tell Castle about the fact that she's been a fan of his books for who knows how long… and of course he's her biggest fan and would happily sit in an interrogation room knocking bad guys around all day. In my mind you can't build a relationshp between two people when they're both up on pedestals.

The great thing however is that the writers are giving us time… they're making it feel like these two people are learning about each other… gaining a more intimate sort of respect for each other rather than simply hero-worship from afar… personally I think if they did jump into bed right now it would be Beckett sleeping with Mr. Bestseller and Castle sleeping with his Buffy/Scully/professional ass-kicker. It's only when they're just Kate and Rick to each other that I think we'll see the writers evolve the friendship into a romantic relationship…

 
January 19, 2010
6:27 pm
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Lots of great interesting thoughts on  Castle and Becketts relationship. I just wanted to add, that I think there was a small realization on Kates part in the the last episode (Rose for everafter) at the end, when Kyra(alyssa milano) comes over to her and says he is all yours. that look on kates face as she is looking at rick at that moment, its like she just realized the depth and how much castle is starting and could become to mean to her. She was seeing him as this famous author and she was a bit awestruck now she is beginning to see and know his real side, and the fact that kyras was so real, made her see him in this light.

so in sucker punch she is continuing to realize this and then tells castle she likes having him around.

January 27, 2010
3:17 am
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gemma said:

Lots of great interesting thoughts on  Castle and Becketts relationship. I just wanted to add, that I think there was a small realization on Kates part in the the last episode (Rose for everafter) at the end, when Kyra(alyssa milano) comes over to her and says he is all yours. that look on kates face as she is looking at rick at that moment, its like she just realized the depth and how much castle is starting and could become to mean to her. She was seeing him as this famous author and she was a bit awestruck now she is beginning to see and know his real side, and the fact that kyras was so real, made her see him in this light.

so in sucker punch she is continuing to realize this and then tells castle she likes having him around.


I agree to this as well. I think he's grown on her a lot. Especially with what they've been through and through the relationships of their friends and like in *Rose ever after* old lovers as well.

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January 27, 2010
3:48 am
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So far I love how they're slowly progressing and are now closer as friends. I agree that they shouldn't just hook-up right away, but a kiss by the end of this season would be good ha. They've taken this long to get to where they are now which is Kate finally admitting to Castle she's likes him being around, and Castle seems like he cares about her and that she's more than just his "muse." Castle has shown that he can be there for her when things get hard and serious for Beckett, like with her mother's killer. The ending of 'The Third Man' was perfect, and I had a feeling that they would end up going out after since they never finished their dates or dinners. At the beginning of season 1 Beckett would've never considered going somewhere with Castle. So they've really grown closer and I'm happy with where they are right now. I hope they keep this up in every new ep.

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February 5, 2010
3:16 am
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I already wrote similar comments on the other (longer) thread, but just to add a couple of comments here.  I think their relationship is going nicely – as long as the writers continue to give us something promising I think it's great.  The Alyssa Milano comment about "he's all yours" was great because of Beckett's look afterwards, as has been mentioned already.  And the hamburger "date", and the jealousy about other dinner dates.  I just hope that they don't try for romantic tension with too many other dates with other people.  Maybe they could have Castle and Beckett just not being able to resist leaning in closer as they talk, look at the computer screen, reports, etc.  I think everyone knows about their attraction – maybe someone in the office could lock them in somewhere on purpose to make them face it themselves?

February 5, 2010
7:14 am
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Season One…. Castle forces his way into Beckett's world, it's against what she wants, he goes around her to get what he wants, he uses his friend the Mayor for this. Castle offers a gesture to her and the office, he gets them an espresso machine, she refuses to accept his gesture or allow him to see that she accepts it.
He offers her a hotdog on the street from the vender, again she does not respond, she doesn't even acknowledge it. Progression to now, she drinks his coffee, she accepts his food and she even allows herself to have a what the heck moment and goes for a burger and a shake with him. Also, note the flirting, at first it's really all him, he is chasing her and she isn't responding at all, she is ignoring and pushing him off, not engaging. FlashForward to now, especially with the lastest clips. Kate Beckett is no longer ignoring she is actually the person who at times is doing the flirting, the tempting. It's no longer all about Castle being the only one to serve or throw them at her, she is throwing them back, serving them back. They are equal in their level of the game, the match.

But just how long can you do that, how long can the mutually flirt without having the viewer get numb to it? There is a thin line you walk with that, because the characters and the viewers become so comfortable watching them and seeing them in sink that the pay off when they do finally make it to the big romantic moments is sort of flat, because you already are comfortable in how it is, how it will be. Right now the show is really on the very brink of being at that very point.

I think it is the time to push them forward to another uncomfortable level, a step up that perhaps they aren't so sure about, one which both or one is pushing against. Right now a new level of tension needs to be introduced, some sort of physical tension, an uncomfortable movement toward eachother in a physical way. So far we have seen them get in the others physical space because of circumstances due to cases and they seem ok with that because they weren't there yet, they weren't in a place that either could seriously think something would come of it. But what happens now when you are amping the flirting up on both parts, especially Beckett's and then a circumstance puts them very close to the other and it makes them want something more and at the same time be uncomfortable about. Sort of like the "You Smell Like Cherries" ampted up.

That's what I think should be next.

February 5, 2010
10:24 am
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I believe the writers are indeed progressing towards a physical (romantic) scene between these two.It absolutely has to happen for this series to go forward.How they write it in will be the interesting part.They will need to make it part of the overall theme of this series and keep B&C flirting with each other but maybe with more interest.
I look for a kiss in an elevator.It's where they have bared their personal baggage to each other all through the series.It has to be initiated by C but accepted by B. They keep it to themselves as B & C worry about their reps. The writers could get many great scenes of them sneaking a quick kiss or hug at a critical or romantic time in the show.While they think they are being so secret about it,everyone else knows what's going on.Lanie becomes closer to B as a friend to share B's romantic musings about C and to help them get together.
Ryan and Esposito watch with interest as things start heating up.Martha and Alexis know of course as C can't keep anything secret from either of them.

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February 10, 2010
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hello! I am sure I posted this already 5 or 6 hours ago.. but it hasn't appeared for some bizarre reason.. anyway I will try again and apologies if eventually it is apparent this is a double post..

I posted the following post on the ep 15 pre episode discussion thread, right before the episode aired.. good one.. great way to have no one read it!! hehehee.. so thought maybe here was a good place to post since it was a general relationship post anyway… love to hear people's thoughts..

Originally posted on episode 15 pre discussion thread:

hello! yeah that interview of Stana's has shed some light on how things will be going in the near future at least.. interesting!!

I see what you mean about not wanting to see them dating others.. Yeah it does sound like this neighbour could be it – good detective work

I want our favourite couple to get together in a timely way… when I hear of them dating others I freak out that uh oh… it will be a long road before they get together ( but this is not necessarily true!!) ..

When I calm down about it – I can see that they are at a stage where they are still getting to know each other.. and there is room for them to date others – and it could be fun to see how the writers do it… I can very easily see Castle dating someone- maybe even someone who is lovely- but.. without realising it, he has already given his heart to beckett.. I can see him being with the lady and being called away to murders at a moment's notice.. and her at first being understanding- but then meeting Beckett and being less understanding and.. hearing him talk about the case.. and talk about Beckett..

A girlfriend for Castle's could be very 'useful' plot wise – to hold a mirror up to Castle- and get him to move forward.. Why, I can just see her dumping him – and telling him straight that Beckett is the one he is really in a relationship with.. she is the one whose call he always takes..and who he has time for.. you know what I mean????

As for Beckett getting some action.. I would love to see her with a great guy other than castle.. who is actually a possibility for her – unlike fbi guy and fireman guy- someone who would shake up Castle and maybe force him to Act on his feelings for her!!!

There is also the old cliche of someone dating someone who is just like the person they are secretly really attracted to- only to find something is 'missing'.. ie Beckett dates a fun intelligent guy who is alot like Castle- but.. the 'thing' just isnt' there!!

I understand the whole idea of having the conflicts come from within – I think the presence of someone else they are dating can be a means to demonstrating those internal conflicts – rather than a conflict in and of itself..

Now I have heard there will be others they are dating, I have calmed down.. toughened up a bit and am ready to go into the trenches! ha haaaa.. don't worry guys.. we can suffer through it together!! – just so long as they are true to the characters and don't push it with us! ha haaaa..

It sounds like (IMO!!) Castle and Beckett will continue to grow together – and become a bit like Harry and Sally in 'when harry met sally' – remember them? they knew each other so well, and were best friends.. and when Harry dated a young girl who had a business selling desserts – sally says ' But harry doesn't even like dessert!' – I can totally see them being like that.. and boy harry and sally loved loved loved to bicker!!

I mentioned somewhere the idea of starting a thread where we can discuss other tv shows, movies or couples or whatever that feed into our Castle obsession – I don't think I saw anyone reply to that idea-??? and I wouldn't know what to call it and don't want to overstep and start a thread I shouldn't. I'm still feeling newish here..

Byee all…wave:

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February 10, 2010
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I absoluty love the secret dating idea where they think they are being all secret about it but in reality everyone knows! It would be a great way to get them together but not change much in the Work invironment they could even pretend to be seeing other people. It would be a fun thing to do and I think it could all start with something as simple as an accediental kiss maybe even from one of the many times Beckett gets mad and gets in Castle's face it would take little movement from him just to plant one on her and then they might start acting a bit strange around each other like they aren't sure were this is going then after a while they decide they wanna give it a try but don't wanna tell anyone in case it doesn't work out…I dunno seems like a cool idea smile

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February 10, 2010
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Doz…I like your take on the dating others business. I guess I knew it was inevitable (especially now that Jose Molina said in chat that other relationships would happen and that if C/B became too serious, the show would turn into Hart to Hart and the detective foreplay would have to stop).

If I calm down, too, I see how relationships with others could certainly advance C/B's relationship by making them realize how much stronger a connection they have with each other than anyone else. I just hope the writers would let us see that kind of process going on through something like Castle discussions with his family or Beckett discussions with Lanie…or situations that happen with the people they are dating that are troubled because of the C/B relationship like Doz said.

I also hope that somewhere in all that, they give us a C/B kiss…I'm sure it would be followed by confusion, backing off by Beckett, and misunderstanding, but I need something to tide me over!

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February 10, 2010
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one brilliant way to show relationship development without advancing the relationship was when the Bachelor/Bachelorette-journalist told us "You went on and on about her. Beckett is the best this, Beckett said the funniest that… Last year you only talked about yourself." – well, she told Castle, but we were the ones who got the message, he didn't. Excellent writing.

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