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Castle's Last Name
November 10, 2009
9:54 pm
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Hello,

I am new to the board and just started watching the show this season.  Caught it one week by chance and was hooked so watched all previous episodes, including season 1, the next day online…  I was wondering if something was ever explained, I haven't see it but maybe missed it……

I am assuming that Castle was Martha's maiden name?  She has been married a few times at least as they mentioned that her last husband took all her money and that is why she lives with Richard and Alexis now… but have they ever said if Castle is a pen name or maybe his father's name?   My understanding was that Richard doesn't know his father, although I don't think they have actually come right out and said that — only that Martha had ….. several men in and out of her life as Richard was growing up.

Probably a stupid question but I was just wondering ….

November 10, 2009
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Interesting question, I don't think it's been addressed but I wouldn't think it was a pen name because Alexis has it too. I would assume it's a family name from one of Martha's previous marriages.

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November 10, 2009
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Hi solemnheart! Welcome to the boards! Wave

It's not a stupid question, I'm wondering the same thing.

We've heard Ryan and/or Esposito call Castle's mom "Mrs. R", implying that she's still Martha Rodgers. Not sure where "Castle" came from, but I'm guessing it's his legal name since Beckett was reading his criminal record in the pilot. He could've changed his name, or just adopted that one for writing, but in either case, it's his name now and has been for a while. Not sure if we've heard it said out loud, but I'm pretty sure Alexis' last name is Castle too.

I'm also a bit curious as to where it came from… Hopefully we'll get some more answers later this season wink

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November 10, 2009
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Hi solemheart and welcome,

OK I think that Castle would have been Martha's surname when she had Rick but Rogers would be her husband's surname as as he obviously didn't adopt Rick he kept Castle as his surname.

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November 11, 2009
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Ah, thank you!!  I was so about to start this thread.  This last episode (2×08) brought up this question for me big time.

Martha uses the name Rodgers- is this her maiden name or one of her married names?  I thought it was her most recent husband's name, but then she is using that name on 'MyFace.'   Since her old school friends are finding her, it MUST be her maiden name.  It's not likely a stage name for that reason, too.  It stands to reason that since she is an actress she would have kept her original name and not changed it throughout her marriages.  Ok, so then where did the name Castle come from?

I thought about the pen name idea, too, but again Alexis uses the name Castle as well, so that's not a fit.

If Martha doesn't know who Rick's father is, then it's unlikely that his name came from his actual father.  And seeing how she says he never had a father figure, it doesn't sound like any of her boyfriends/husbands ever stuck around long enough to adopt him, sooooo…

Unless perhaps Martha was married to a guy named Castle at the time she had Rick and she gave him her married name at the time.  Guess I'm gonna go with that theory for now.  Yeah.

November 11, 2009
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Technically, Martha could have been married to a guy named Castle, and still not have known who Rick's father was. No one said she was a saint. So she gave her son her husband's name for lack of a different name to give him. It probably woud have been rather conspicuous to name him Rogers if she were married to a man named Castle. It's also quite likely that Martha, being a professional actress with an established reputation in her own name, never took any husband's name and has always been Rogers. After the divorce (which may or may not have had something to do with Rick's paternity), she opted to leave his name alone.

And the theories continue …

December 15, 2009
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no body has brought up the possibility that "Rodgers" is a stage nmae for Martha. Particularly with rodgers being so well thought of on the stage i.e. Richard Rodgers. Come to think of it that may be why Rick is named Richard, in homage to Richard Rodgers.

December 15, 2009
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Paladin said:no body has brought up the possibility that "Rodgers" is a stage nmae for Martha. Particularly with rodgers being so well thought of on the stage i.e. Richard Rodgers. Come to think of it that may be why Rick is named Richard, in homage to Richard Rodgers.


True, but go back to what GreenyJess said:

"but then she is using that name [Rodgers] on 'MyFace.'   Since her old school friends are finding her, it MUST be her maiden name.  It's not likely a stage name for that reason, too.  It stands to reason that since she is an actress she would have kept her original name and not changed it throughout her marriages."

It really is a mystery… I'm curious if it'll be addressed this season Read

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December 16, 2009
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Maybe Castle's name is like a Tootsie Roll Pop… The world may never know. (P.S.: I'm refering to the older Tootsie Roll Pop commercials when the kid is trying to find out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.)

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December 16, 2009
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sarah_darling said:Maybe Castle's name is like a Tootsie Roll Pop… The world may never know. (P.S.: I'm refering to the older Tootsie Roll Pop commercials when the kid is trying to find out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pop.)


Haha. I've seen those commericals! I love tootsie pops.

And yes, I dunno if we'll ever find out! :P

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December 16, 2009
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Paladin said:no body has brought up the possibility that "Rodgers" is a stage nmae for Martha. Particularly with rodgers being so well thought of on the stage i.e. Richard Rodgers. Come to think of it that may be why Rick is named Richard, in homage to Richard Rodgers.


That's actually an interesting thought! I always kind of wondered about the name's origin, but hadn't put that much thought into it.

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December 16, 2009
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I think it will be interesting if the writers explore Castle and his feelings about his father. It appears in past episodes when his father is mentioned Castle & his mother have no idea who it is, or at least she is telling him this his entire life. I wonder what his feelings are about his father and if he will share this with Beckett in the future. Would be neat if the writers had a case about a father and son trying to ovwercome differences and one is murdered  and how this effects Castle wanting to know who his father was or try to find him, maybe he has and he comments on that or that he is upset with his Mom that she never let him know his father or that he would like to just act like he never existed. Could be some interesting storylines about his last name, or even Alexis wanting to know about her health history.

December 16, 2009
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Castle said:Interesting question, I don't think it's been addressed but I wouldn't think it was a pen name because Alexis has it too. I would assume it's a family name from one of Martha's previous marriages.

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December 16, 2009
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I think Castle not knowing who his father is adds so much to who he is today. (Just a quick thought to throw in!)

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December 17, 2009
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sarah_darling said:I think Castle not knowing who his father is adds so much to who he is today. (Just a quick thought to throw in!)


I wonder if they would ever incorporate his father coming into the picture.

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