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Does Beckett Love Castle?
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January 26, 2012
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Remember in Cuffed, when they had their little quible with each other about who's in control?

This discussion has come up before and when Beckett came back to him, after he commented about her always having to go through the door first and would it kill her to let him open the door for her, was to reference the door being held open for her, would still allow her to be first through the door.

My interpretation of that was Beckett's way of saying, that if you want to step up and share, be an equally strong partner, stop playing the passive aggressive role, stop enabling me to 'be' in control.  That opening the door for me (while is the considerate and nice thing to do) enables my control.  That if you always try to be considerate of my needs and feelings, putting your own on the back burner, only perpetuates my leadership.  I think he heard that, and understood what she was saying, and as I have commented before, elsewhere, they both are working on finding that balance where it works best for the both of them. 

As ACF and others have said, she is working on giving up some of that control to Castle, the one guy who has proven to her over and over again, that he is someone she can trust and count on and he is working on stepping up and taking the reigns when it matters most to him.

Kate's control issues are subsiding through her therapy.  She is learning that the need to control is primarily about fear and lack of trust in others.  It's about her own insecurities and learning to have faith in not only herself, but also with those to whom she cares most about.  To open herself up to others, to difference, to options, to opposing perspectives, etc.  Life is about change, difference, and looking up and what is out on the horizon, instead of at your feet, being myopic, and closed off to anything beyond yourself. 

OK….that sounded a bit like a therapy session.  Sorry.

My point being, I like the direction these two are taking.  It's honest, respectful, and truly loving.  There's room for improvment, especially with their direct communication.

January 26, 2012
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FillKat said:

Remember in Cuffed, when they had their little quible with each other about who's in control?

This discussion has come up before and when Beckett came back to him, after he commented about her always having to go through the door first and would it kill her to let him open the door for her, was to reference the door being held open for her, would still allow her to be first through the door.

My interpretation of that was Beckett's way of saying, that if you want to step up and share, be an equally strong partner, stop playing the passive aggressive role, stop enabling me to 'be' in control.  That opening the door for me (while is the considerate and nice thing to do) enables my control.  That if you always try to be considerate of my needs and feelings, putting your own on the back burner, only perpetuates my leadership.  I think he heard that, and understood what she was saying, and as I have commented before, elsewhere, they both are working on finding that balance where it works best for the both of them. 

As ACF and others have said, she is working on giving up some of that control to Castle, the one guy who has proven to her over and over again, that he is someone she can trust and count on and he is working on stepping up and taking the reigns when it matters most to him.

Kate's control issues are subsiding through her therapy.  She is learning that the need to control is primarily about fear and lack of trust in others.  It's about her own insecurities and learning to have faith in not only herself, but also with those to whom she cares most about.  To open herself up to others, to difference, to options, to opposing perspectives, etc.  Life is about change, difference, and looking up and what is out on the horizon, instead of at your feet, being myopic, and closed off to anything beyond yourself. 

OK….that sounded a bit like a therapy session.  Sorry.

My point being, I like the direction these two are taking.  It's honest, respectful, and truly loving.  There's room for improvment, especially with their direct communication.

 

You`re right. I think he got it what she “said” in subtext in their quible.

And in Till Death Do Us Part he stepped up, already.

You can see it in the scene where he`s the first through that door to the interrogation room where all the victim`s girlfriends waited. He`s not looking if she wanna go in first, he doesn`t hesitate, he`s not giving her the way, he just manned up and walked into that room. Without thinking.

But sad that we don`t get a look if she has registered that Smile.

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January 26, 2012
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FillKat said:

Remember in Cuffed, when they had their little quible with each other about who's in control?

This discussion has come up before and when Beckett came back to him, after he commented about her always having to go through the door first and would it kill her to let him open the door for her, was to reference the door being held open for her, would still allow her to be first through the door.

My interpretation of that was Beckett's way of saying, that if you want to step up and share, be an equally strong partner, stop playing the passive aggressive role, stop enabling me to 'be' in control.  That opening the door for me (while is the considerate and nice thing to do) enables my control.  That if you always try to be considerate of my needs and feelings, putting your own on the back burner, only perpetuates my leadership.  I think he heard that, and understood what she was saying, and as I have commented before, elsewhere, they both are working on finding that balance where it works best for the both of them. 

As ACF and others have said, she is working on giving up some of that control to Castle, the one guy who has proven to her over and over again, that he is someone she can trust and count on and he is working on stepping up and taking the reigns when it matters most to him.

Kate's control issues are subsiding through her therapy.  She is learning that the need to control is primarily about fear and lack of trust in others.  It's about her own insecurities and learning to have faith in not only herself, but also with those to whom she cares most about.  To open herself up to others, to difference, to options, to opposing perspectives, etc.  Life is about change, difference, and looking up and what is out on the horizon, instead of at your feet, being myopic, and closed off to anything beyond yourself. 

OK….that sounded a bit like a therapy session.  Sorry.

My point being, I like the direction these two are taking.  It's honest, respectful, and truly loving.  There's room for improvment, especially with their direct communication.

Exactly! Great post! I often wonder what Kate was like before her mother was murdered. She probably always was stubborn and somewhat bossy. I'm thinking that the control freak appeared after her mother's murder. Often people turn to wanting to control everything or planning every detail when they've encountered situations in their lives in which they were not able to maintain control. It's a reaction to being sucker punched in your life with something traumatic. She needed to control everyone and everything around her to gauge possible caveats and possibly dangers. The worse your experience, the more of a control freak a person can be. It could also be part of the PTSD she has probably suffering from since her mother's murder. However, as FilKat so aptly describes, with therapy she has learned to open up, the emotional, be playful, and be trusting not only to Castle but also to Esposito (Kill Shot) and Ryan.

 

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January 27, 2012
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Exactly! Great post! I often wonder what Kate was like before her mother was murdered. She probably always was stubborn and somewhat bossy. I'm thinking that the control freak appeared after her mother's murder. Often people turn to wanting to control everything or planning every detail when they've encountered situations in their lives in which they were not able to maintain control. It's a reaction to being sucker punched in your life with something traumatic. She needed to control everyone and everything around her to gauge possible caveats and possibly dangers. The worse your experience, the more of a control freak a person can be. It could also be part of the PTSD she has probably suffering from since her mother's murder. However, as FilKat so aptly describes, with therapy she has learned to open up, the emotional, be playful, and be trusting not only to Castle but also to Esposito (Kill Shot) and Ryan.

 

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Sweet.

Just wanted to add that I think Kate always has been a bit of a control freak so it didn’t just appear but it got amplified. In order to cope with her trauma she had to find a new balance of her emotions so she became another self not by choice. That’s why Castle initially was causing so much disarray in her life because he threw her off balance even more.

January 27, 2012
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1-and-done said:

sigh*

And again:

There`s no need at all of verbalizing all of what you feel. I didn`t mean that in context of Kate telling Rick. I had understood what you meant. You meant Kate saying it out loud to herself or maybe Lanie.

But she doesn`t need to. She`s more of a introverted kind of a human being.

She`s the “yang” Castle as “ying” needs.

Castle is the most of extroverted kind of person. No need to push introverted persons in doing the same like you would or something the same way you might do, don`t you think?

There`s a clever marketing line out there, you may recognize it: Have it YOUR way!

Wouldn`t you want the same for you that you can act in YOUR preferred way? And not being told by someone else to do like you wouldn`t do by yourself? If you would prefer Kate being that open like Rick,…. in the words of Richard Castle,… that would be a “ying-ying”… and … that`s the name of a panda…Smile.

If you had been listening carefully to the show you would have recognized (but only with overthinking, of course) that she indeed did tell someone.

She did tell Dr. Burke.

Why else he should ask her in Eye of the Beholder what she`s afraid of – that Rick won`t wait for her or that, indeed, will wait for her? If she wouldn`t have told him that she indeed loves Rick, then this question would be obsolete because it wouldn`t make sense at all.

If you`d really want Kate and Rick already together by now,…. you would`ve just signed in for just ending the show with its fourth season. And it would be like “Huh? What has just happened? Isn`t there something they missed telling us?”

 

*So let me get this straight since from your post you're saying that it's okay for Beckett not to verbalize her feelings because she is an introvert and it's her way. 

The story is about 2 individual who were lucky enough to find the love of their life and seems like your saying it's okay to not be able to say the words (verbalize)? Maybe if you add for now somewhere i could agree with it since it's pretty obvious that Beckett's might not be ready still, otherwise lets agree to just disagree. 

 

And.. we don't know what Beckett have told Dr Worf, I suspect that she only told him what Castle said but If she did indeed tell Dr. Worf her feelings for Castle than what was it that Dr. Worf was trying to make her say in the therapy session? But than this is just how i perceive the scene, might be that we still differ in opinion.

 

The reason i set up the forum topic is to enjoy myself reading the post and views of many others since picking on Beckett's brain is lol sooo much fun. I thought it would be an interesting way to pass time in between episode. I am not in any rush to see them together although I, like many others would love for it to be sooner rather than much much later. 

January 27, 2012
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grapes said:

little eve said:

Exactly! Great post! I often wonder what Kate was like before her mother was murdered. She probably always was stubborn and somewhat bossy. I'm thinking that the control freak appeared after her mother's murder. Often people turn to wanting to control everything or planning every detail when they've encountered situations in their lives in which they were not able to maintain control. It's a reaction to being sucker punched in your life with something traumatic. She needed to control everyone and everything around her to gauge possible caveats and possibly dangers. The worse your experience, the more of a control freak a person can be. It could also be part of the PTSD she has probably suffering from since her mother's murder. However, as FilKat so aptly describes, with therapy she has learned to open up, the emotional, be playful, and be trusting not only to Castle but also to Esposito (Kill Shot) and Ryan.

 

Let's hope I do the math problem correctly otherwise I get thrown out again /wp-content/forum-smileys/smiley-crazy2.gif

Sweet.

Just wanted to add that I think Kate always has been a bit of a control freak so it didn't just appear but it got amplified. In order to cope with her trauma she had to find a new balance of her emotions so she became another self not by choice. That's why Castle initially was causing so much disarray in her life because he threw her off balance even more.

Amplified, yes, it got amplified! I agree with you that makes perfect sense.

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tyler said:

1-and-done said:

sigh*

And again:

There`s no need at all of verbalizing all of what you feel. I didn`t mean that in context of Kate telling Rick. I had understood what you meant. You meant Kate saying it out loud to herself or maybe Lanie.

But she doesn`t need to. She`s more of a introverted kind of a human being.

She`s the “yang” Castle as “ying” needs.

Castle is the most of extroverted kind of person. No need to push introverted persons in doing the same like you would or something the same way you might do, don`t you think?

There`s a clever marketing line out there, you may recognize it: Have it YOUR way!

Wouldn`t you want the same for you that you can act in YOUR preferred way? And not being told by someone else to do like you wouldn`t do by yourself? If you would prefer Kate being that open like Rick,…. in the words of Richard Castle,… that would be a “ying-ying”… and … that`s the name of a panda…Smile.

If you had been listening carefully to the show you would have recognized (but only with overthinking, of course) that she indeed did tell someone.

She did tell Dr. Burke.

Why else he should ask her in Eye of the Beholder what she`s afraid of – that Rick won`t wait for her or that, indeed, will wait for her? If she wouldn`t have told him that she indeed loves Rick, then this question would be obsolete because it wouldn`t make sense at all.

If you`d really want Kate and Rick already together by now,…. you would`ve just signed in for just ending the show with its fourth season. And it would be like “Huh? What has just happened? Isn`t there something they missed telling us?”

 

*So let me get this straight since from your post you're saying that it's okay for Beckett not to verbalize her feelings because she is an introvert and it's her way. 

The story is about 2 individual who were lucky enough to find the love of their life and seems like your saying it's okay to not be able to say the words (verbalize)? Maybe if you add for now somewhere i could agree with it since it's pretty obvious that Beckett's might not be ready still, otherwise lets agree to just disagree. 

 

And.. we don't know what Beckett have told Dr Worf, I suspect that she only told him what Castle said but If she did indeed tell Dr. Worf her feelings for Castle than what was it that Dr. Worf was trying to make her say in the therapy session? But than this is just how i perceive the scene, might be that we still differ in opinion.

 

The reason i set up the forum topic is to enjoy myself reading the post and views of many others since picking on Beckett's brain is lol sooo much fun. I thought it would be an interesting way to pass time in between episode. I am not in any rush to see them together although I, like many others would love for it to be sooner rather than much much later. 

 

Yep, I think we can agree Smile on some level.

I, indeed, should have added the “for now”. I may got the wrong impression that you don`t understand Beckett at all. Sorry for that. I may add, too, that she seemed to be used to that “introverted” behaviour and that nobody had addressed her about it up until now. Then there would be another “little wall” to tear down,…. the way of self recognicion (the moment you`re doing it, or if you put it the other way: the moment you`re not including others, may they be family or may they be lovers, in your decisions).

I think he told him that she heard his ILY (after the end scene in Rise). But what kind of therapist would Dr. Burke be, if he would not asking more questions about that particular fact. Why should it matter at all? Why should she first lie about it? You don`t have to do that if you`re not somehow impressed at all or if you`re not concerned about it. I think, in Eye of the Beholder Dr. Burke was up to get her to realize that the feelings she has are LOVE (and nothing less than love) and therefore fear of commiting to it. Some people you only get to realize something if you provoke them or even annoy them to get the hoped reaction. I think he knew that it would be too early to get a confession out of her at that moment he asked her. But I think he now knows her good enough that he just asks the right annoying Smile questions that she`s startled enough to get her brain into overdrive Smile with self-questioning. Maybe she will have the answer (the possibility of her willing to verbalize her confession) in one of her next sessions. But if we (the audience) were privy to witness that, that will be an important question for the next few episodes.

But, as long as she hasn`t finished this development within herself, … I think nobody should have the right to address her on that behaviour and demanding for “more” of her. That could cause a conversion. She has to learn the lesson on her own, not under pressure from anyone outside (not only Rick but even Lanie).

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January 27, 2012
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little eve said:

FillKat said:

Remember in Cuffed, when they had their little quible with each other about who's in control?

This discussion has come up before and when Beckett came back to him, after he commented about her always having to go through the door first and would it kill her to let him open the door for her, was to reference the door being held open for her, would still allow her to be first through the door.

My interpretation of that was Beckett's way of saying, that if you want to step up and share, be an equally strong partner, stop playing the passive aggressive role, stop enabling me to 'be' in control.  That opening the door for me (while is the considerate and nice thing to do) enables my control.  That if you always try to be considerate of my needs and feelings, putting your own on the back burner, only perpetuates my leadership.  I think he heard that, and understood what she was saying, and as I have commented before, elsewhere, they both are working on finding that balance where it works best for the both of them. 

As ACF and others have said, she is working on giving up some of that control to Castle, the one guy who has proven to her over and over again, that he is someone she can trust and count on and he is working on stepping up and taking the reigns when it matters most to him.

Kate's control issues are subsiding through her therapy.  She is learning that the need to control is primarily about fear and lack of trust in others.  It's about her own insecurities and learning to have faith in not only herself, but also with those to whom she cares most about.  To open herself up to others, to difference, to options, to opposing perspectives, etc.  Life is about change, difference, and looking up and what is out on the horizon, instead of at your feet, being myopic, and closed off to anything beyond yourself. 

OK….that sounded a bit like a therapy session.  Sorry.

My point being, I like the direction these two are taking.  It's honest, respectful, and truly loving.  There's room for improvment, especially with their direct communication.

Exactly! Great post! I often wonder what Kate was like before her mother was murdered. She probably always was stubborn and somewhat bossy. I'm thinking that the control freak appeared after her mother's murder. Often people turn to wanting to control everything or planning every detail when they've encountered situations in their lives in which they were not able to maintain control. It's a reaction to being sucker punched in your life with something traumatic. She needed to control everyone and everything around her to gauge possible caveats and possibly dangers. The worse your experience, the more of a control freak a person can be. It could also be part of the PTSD she has probably suffering from since her mother's murder. However, as FilKat so aptly describes, with therapy she has learned to open up, the emotional, be playful, and be trusting not only to Castle but also to Esposito (Kill Shot) and Ryan.

 

Great posts FillKat and little eve.  I completely agree with the take on Kate's coping after her mother's death and now her progress in therapy.  I would like to add that we do know that Kate was A LOT like she is now even as a little girl.  Remember the story her father told Rick about the nightlight?  She has always been bossy, controlling, stubborn, etc…  But I bet she was also playful, affectionate, and adventurous.  The trauma magnified some personal traits and pushed down some others.  Adaptations that made her outwardly stronger and colder to avoid future emotional pain.

Castle was right when he cold read her in the first episode.  If her mother had not died when she was in college, she probably would become a brilliant, charming, playful lawyer… who as still extremely dedicated and amazingly good at her job Smile

January 27, 2012
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Based on what we saw in Kill Shot I would think she would be terrified of really letting him in now.  The idea that she might have another episode and he be there when it happens, or that the effects of her PTSD could come out and create a situation that they couldn't deal with – would be really really discouraging.  If you don't care about someone that much it might not matter as much if they see you at your worst, but when you care about someone the way I think she does, it becomes the 10 ton elephant-of-significance in the room.  I keep thinking about how she ran away in the building when her panic attack started, but with Esposito she was able to work it out.  

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grapes said:

1-and-done said:

grapes said:

Next thing you know she's almost pregnant. /wp-content/forum-smileys/smiley-rofl.gif

Please!!! You are better than that. That`s really low /wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif. Or do you really think that she could be pregnant from having this little hand-sex /wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif?

Well, there was an episode of Startrek Enterprise that indicated that you could get pregnant from hand-sex. Embarassed But that doesn't apply to the humon race. (I could make another inappropriate suggestion about hand-sex though but that would be wrong.)

But should Castle keep on testing Becke… Kate to see if she's ready in his own subtle way?

 

Oh, … I think that Castle wouldn´t need to test the waters.

I think the “Beckett” in Kate will let him know it. And it will not be subtle Smile. I`d like to see him rather surprised with her confession than “goin-fishin” for it.

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Oh, … I think that Castle wouldn´t need to test the waters.

I think the “Beckett” in Kate will let him know it. And it will not be subtle /wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-smile.gif. I`d like to see him rather surprised with her confession than “goin-fishin” for it.

But it’s gonna take at least 5 episodes for Kate to come through though.Bounce2

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FillKat said:

Remember in Cuffed, when they had their little quible with each other about who’s in control?

This discussion has come up before and when Beckett came back to him, after he commented about her always having to go through the door first and would it kill her to let him open the door for her, was to reference the door being held open for her, would still allow her to be first through the door.

My interpretation of that was Beckett’s way of saying, that if you want to step up and share, be an equally strong partner, stop playing the passive aggressive role, stop enabling me to ‘be’ in control.  That opening the door for me (while is the considerate and nice thing to do) enables my control.  That if you always try to be considerate of my needs and feelings, putting your own on the back burner, only perpetuates my leadership.  I think he heard that, and understood what she was saying, and as I have commented before, elsewhere, they both are working on finding that balance where it works best for the both of them. 

As ACF and others have said, she is working on giving up some of that control to Castle, the one guy who has proven to her over and over again, that he is someone she can trust and count on and he is working on stepping up and taking the reigns when it matters most to him.

Kate’s control issues are subsiding through her therapy.  She is learning that the need to control is primarily about fear and lack of trust in others.  It’s about her own insecurities and learning to have faith in not only herself, but also with those to whom she cares most about.  To open herself up to others, to difference, to options, to opposing perspectives, etc.  Life is about change, difference, and looking up and what is out on the horizon, instead of at your feet, being myopic, and closed off to anything beyond yourself. 

OK….that sounded a bit like a therapy session.  Sorry.

My point being, I like the direction these two are taking.  It’s honest, respectful, and truly loving.  There’s room for improvment, especially with their direct communication.

Something else just occurred to me…one of the things Kate has been telling Castle lately is that as a partner he should share the responsibilities equally…and help her with the paperwork. She has said it repeatedly and we’ve discussed before that it is not solely the paperwork that she is talking about , but perhaps she wants to see him more often.

Well, it is also her way of suggesting that she wants him to take more control of their partnership by sharing the responsibilities, you know…the less fun stuff like writing up the reports etc. So, in one of the key areas (if not the key area) of her life she wants him to take control with her but he doesn't . She is trying to tell him (and us) something here. It fits in with FilKat’s comments above about Kate telling Rick to just take control without enabling her or indirectly allowing her control. By not fulfilling all of his responsibilities as her partner he is giving her the control of an important part of the job. But yet in other moments he comments about her control issues. I get the feeling she thinks that he just wants to pick and choose the fun parts. And I think she’s got a good point.

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RickNotCastle said:

little eve said:

FillKat said:

Remember in Cuffed, when they had their little quible with each other about who's in control?

This discussion has come up before and when Beckett came back to him, after he commented about her always having to go through the door first and would it kill her to let him open the door for her, was to reference the door being held open for her, would still allow her to be first through the door.

My interpretation of that was Beckett's way of saying, that if you want to step up and share, be an equally strong partner, stop playing the passive aggressive role, stop enabling me to 'be' in control.  That opening the door for me (while is the considerate and nice thing to do) enables my control.  That if you always try to be considerate of my needs and feelings, putting your own on the back burner, only perpetuates my leadership.  I think he heard that, and understood what she was saying, and as I have commented before, elsewhere, they both are working on finding that balance where it works best for the both of them. 

As ACF and others have said, she is working on giving up some of that control to Castle, the one guy who has proven to her over and over again, that he is someone she can trust and count on and he is working on stepping up and taking the reigns when it matters most to him.

Kate's control issues are subsiding through her therapy.  She is learning that the need to control is primarily about fear and lack of trust in others.  It's about her own insecurities and learning to have faith in not only herself, but also with those to whom she cares most about.  To open herself up to others, to difference, to options, to opposing perspectives, etc.  Life is about change, difference, and looking up and what is out on the horizon, instead of at your feet, being myopic, and closed off to anything beyond yourself. 

OK….that sounded a bit like a therapy session.  Sorry.

My point being, I like the direction these two are taking.  It's honest, respectful, and truly loving.  There's room for improvment, especially with their direct communication.

Exactly! Great post! I often wonder what Kate was like before her mother was murdered. She probably always was stubborn and somewhat bossy. I'm thinking that the control freak appeared after her mother's murder. Often people turn to wanting to control everything or planning every detail when they've encountered situations in their lives in which they were not able to maintain control. It's a reaction to being sucker punched in your life with something traumatic. She needed to control everyone and everything around her to gauge possible caveats and possibly dangers. The worse your experience, the more of a control freak a person can be. It could also be part of the PTSD she has probably suffering from since her mother's murder. However, as FilKat so aptly describes, with therapy she has learned to open up, the emotional, be playful, and be trusting not only to Castle but also to Esposito (Kill Shot) and Ryan.

 

Great posts FillKat and little eve.  I completely agree with the take on Kate's coping after her mother's death and now her progress in therapy.  I would like to add that we do know that Kate was A LOT like she is now even as a little girl.  Remember the story her father told Rick about the nightlight?  She has always been bossy, controlling, stubborn, etc…  But I bet she was also playful, affectionate, and adventurous.  The trauma magnified some personal traits and pushed down some others.  Adaptations that made her outwardly stronger and colder to avoid future emotional pain.

Castle was right when he cold read her in the first episode.  If her mother had not died when she was in college, she probably would become a brilliant, charming, playful lawyer… who as still extremely dedicated and amazingly good at her job Smile

Great posts, FillKat, little eve and RNC! IMO, your three posts together sum up Kate`s whole control issue in a very good way.

 

@FillKat: I don`t mind, if it sounds like a therapy session- as long as you don`t make me pay for it. Laugh But honestly, I really liked it.

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little eve said:

Something else just occurred to me…one of the things Kate has been telling Castle lately is that as a partner he should share the responsibilities equally…and help her with the paperwork. She has said it repeatedly and we've discussed before that it is not solely the paperwork that she is talking about , but perhaps she wants to see him more often.

Well, it is also her way of suggesting that she wants him to take more control of their partnership by sharing the responsibilities, you know…the less fun stuff like writing up the reports etc. So, in one of the key areas (if not the key area) of her life she wants him to take control with her but he doesn't . She is trying to tell him (and us) something here. It fits in with FilKat's comments above about Kate telling Rick to just take control without enabling her or indirectly allowing her control. By not fulfilling all of his responsibilities as her partner he is giving her the control of an important part of the job. But yet in other moments he comments about her control issues. I get the feeling she thinks that he just wants to pick and choose the fun parts. And I think she's got a good point.

And I think you just made a good point! I've noticed that she brings up the paperwork subject but I never paid much attention to it. She treats him like her partner, partners do paperwork together. Although I think that he sometimes does his share, even if it's only bringing coffee and some food for everyone. Castle always seemed to be a very responsible person to me.

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Regarding paperwork…would Castle ‘legally’ be able to do paperwork as he’s not a cop? I could see him proofreading or suggesting things but would he allowed to do it ‘in the real world’?

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