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Does Beckett Love Castle?
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January 25, 2012
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ACF said:

little eve said:

@ ACF: This made me smile… " globilization of so many things, internet, instant access to all matter of entertainment without ever setting foot outside one's home, social media that lets one make "friends" that will never been seen face-to-face –"  haha, you mean like this board? I think I sort of belong to your generation (a few years younger I would guesstimate by the clues left if your post;-) ) and I agree with you on the generational differences and their influence on our perceptions of the characters featured in Castle. However, these characters also belong to a particular generation or generations and their actions are as much guided by that as ours. That is something to take into consideration and I think you do, given what I've read in your posts.

Heehee  Exactly little eve!  I'm a lifelong learner (My kids would say that's because I never get anything right the first time…  Laugh )  so I'm trying to embrace whatever is out there, but we do retain what we were taught, don't we. 

 

Back to the original premise of this thread…  Does Beckett love Castle? 

My answer – No.

 

Buuuuut…..

Does Kate love Castle?  my answer – Yes

 

(Ready, set, go!  ….   Bounce2)

 

Hm, now I`m a little confused Smile. I didn`t get the impression that this gorgeous woman could be a shizophrenic Laugh!

But jokes aside, I think you`re absolutely right.

Kate has just to force Beckett to evolve to some kind of fun and joy and letting-go and Beckett has just to force Kate to come little steps forward, too, to not being so shy or being more open…. so they finally can be "on the same page". Both are really working to find that step. You can see that in almost every episode since Dr. Burke was introduced.

First step was of Beckett – to recognize she needs help in coping with everything. In development of coping she made the discovery of her two souls. And it`s self-knowledge which is the first step to steady improvment, as I was told many times Smile. Kate is the one at the end of Killshot to want "more".

But, Holy Grail, when they finally will be on the same page, then watch out, Richard Castle Bounce2!

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January 25, 2012
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ACF said:

Back to the original premise of this thread…  Does Beckett love Castle? 

My answer – No.

 

Buuuuut…..

Does Kate love Castle?  my answer – Yes

 

(Ready, set, go!  ….   /wp-content/forum-smileys/smiley-bounce.gif)

Richard Alexander Roger fell in love with Katherine and not Beckett.

January 25, 2012
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little eve said:

I still cannot post my writing … is there a length limit does anyone know? Or a problem with pasting text from a word document?

@little eve: Yesterday I had problems posting, too. Couldn`t find a reason… But I logged out and then logged in again- and then everything was fine… Who knows…

There is no curse !
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grapes said:

ACF said:

Back to the original premise of this thread…  Does Beckett love Castle? 

My answer – No.

 

Buuuuut…..

Does Kate love Castle?  my answer – Yes

 

(Ready, set, go!  ….   /wp-content/forum-smileys/smiley-bounce.gif)

Richard Alexander Roger fell in love with Katherine and not Beckett.

 

Hm, I don`t think so. He was fascinated from Beckett the first moment they met. But I think he realized that there was a different person underneath her "cover" and wanted to learn about Beckett`s story in order to find that person named Kate. He knows now that Kate and Richard Alexander Rodgers are soulmates, he gives Beckett time to discover that for herself.

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January 25, 2012
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ACF said:

Oh my goodness,FillKate, way to make me feel old.  I haven't even hit mid-century yet!    Laugh

But you are right I think.  I was thinking about this last night.  I can remember listening to Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy on the television (and the radio!  How's that for old).  I grew up with the notion that we are responsible for our actions and how they affect not only us, but others.  I was raised to believe that making sacrifices for your family and friends was nothing out of the ordinary and that good, kind people make the choice to reach out to others.  9/11, globilization of so many things, internet, instant access to all matter of entertainment without ever setting foot outside one's home, social media that lets one make "friends" that will never been seen face-to-face – all those things take the human out of human interaction.  They give credence to the belief that "no one will take care are me better than me" so it's every man for himself.  And you young whipper-snappers have been raised in that crucible. 

So yes, I think you are right, it is a generational thing and have to say, I'm very glad I'm in mine. 

 

Don't want to digress the point of this thread, just wanted to take a sec and say I'm in total agreement

…. and I've run past the century mark, ever so slightly  :) 

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Hm, I don`t think so. He was fascinated from Beckett the first moment they met. But I think he realized that there was a different person underneath her "cover" and wanted to learn about Beckett`s story in order to find that person named Kate. He knows now that Kate and Richard Alexander Rodgers are soulmates, he gives Beckett time to discover that for herself.

 

Well said!

…and I agree.

 

I don't know if Beckett loves Castle, but she is certainly fascinated by him, his skills, and abilities that have helped her and her team, as well as, the precinct catch a lot of bad guys.

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Ok this has been bugging me for some time. So I am just going to say it. 

 

The audience knows that kate loves castle. Kate herself knows that she loves castle. She also knows that he loves her. She decided to stall on the relationship becoz she felt that until she solves her mom's murder she cant be in the relationship she wants to be in. This changed in ep 9 where she decided she wants to be 'more' than her mom's murder. Now it is 4 episodes after that. 

So what exactly is stopping her from coming clean with castle? Is she afraid that admitting her love also means admitting that she heard him which means she can potentially lose him???? If thats the case, then i would find it selfish, becoz if she loves one person, then she must also be ready to face their wrath!!! 

This is the only reason i can think as to why kate is not coming clean with castle yet!!! 

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Ok this has been bugging me for some time. So I am just going to say it. 

 

The audience knows that kate loves castle. Kate herself knows that she loves castle. She also knows that he loves her. She decided to stall on the relationship becoz she felt that until she solves her mom's murder she cant be in the relationship she wants to be in. This changed in ep 9 where she decided she wants to be 'more' than her mom's murder. Now it is 4 episodes after that. 

So what exactly is stopping her from coming clean with castle? Is she afraid that admitting her love also means admitting that she heard him which means she can potentially lose him???? If thats the case, then i would find it selfish, becoz if she loves one person, then she must also be ready to face their wrath!!! 

This is the only reason i can think as to why kate is not coming clean with castle yet!!! 

Which is???????????

 

I would think fear.  But maybe it's something else…like TPTB.

January 25, 2012
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FillKat said:

1-and-done said:

Hm, I don`t think so. He was fascinated from Beckett the first moment they met. But I think he realized that there was a different person underneath her "cover" and wanted to learn about Beckett`s story in order to find that person named Kate. He knows now that Kate and Richard Alexander Rodgers are soulmates, he gives Beckett time to discover that for herself.

Well said!

…and I agree.

I don't know if Beckett loves Castle, but she is certainly fascinated by him, his skills, and abilities that have helped her and her team, as well as, the precinct catch a lot of bad guys.

 

Exactly.  They are both fascinated with each other.  They both like each other.  And now they both love each other.  I think the writers have done a great job talking about Beckett's issues from 4x01 on with the wall analogy. 

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lulu12345 said:

Ok this has been bugging me for some time. So I am just going to say it. 

The audience knows that kate loves castle. Kate herself knows that she loves castle. She also knows that he loves her. She decided to stall on the relationship becoz she felt that until she solves her mom's murder she cant be in the relationship she wants to be in. This changed in ep 9 where she decided she wants to be 'more' than her mom's murder. Now it is 4 episodes after that. 

So what exactly is stopping her from coming clean with castle? Is she afraid that admitting her love also means admitting that she heard him which means she can potentially lose him???? If thats the case, then i would find it selfish, becoz if she loves one person, then she must also be ready to face their wrath!!! 

This is the only reason i can think as to why kate is not coming clean with castle yet!!! 

 

I don't think Kate is afraid of Rick being mad about hearing ILY.  Kate is holding back from a relationship because she is still working on herself.  The reason she thinks it is necessary to work on herself before getting into a relationship with Rick is because of all her previous relationships.  She has sabotaged all of them by never really being completely "in".  And she wants to be fully invested and committed in a relationship with Rick.  Since Rick basically agreed that he would wait for her until she was ready and would help her in whatever way he could to get ready, I don't think she is being selfish. 

  

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lulu12345 said:

Ok this has been bugging me for some time. So I am just going to say it. 

The audience knows that kate loves castle. Kate herself knows that she loves castle. She also knows that he loves her. She decided to stall on the relationship becoz she felt that until she solves her mom's murder she cant be in the relationship she wants to be in. This changed in ep 9 where she decided she wants to be 'more' than her mom's murder. Now it is 4 episodes after that. 

So what exactly is stopping her from coming clean with castle? Is she afraid that admitting her love also means admitting that she heard him which means she can potentially lose him???? If thats the case, then i would find it selfish, becoz if she loves one person, then she must also be ready to face their wrath!!! 

This is the only reason i can think as to why kate is not coming clean with castle yet!!! 

 

I don't think Kate is afraid of Rick being mad about hearing ILY.  Kate is holding back from a relationship because she is still working on herself.  The reason she thinks it is necessary to work on herself before getting into a relationship with Rick is because of all her previous relationships.  She has sabotaged all of them by never really being completely "in".  And she wants to be fully invested and committed in a relationship with Rick.  Since Rick basically agreed that he would wait for her until she was ready and would help her in whatever way he could to get ready, I don't think she is being selfish. 

  

But stana in a recent interview said that kate is ready to dive into a relationship with castle. Which means she has worked on herself! 

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lulu12345 said:

RickNotCastle said:

lulu12345 said:

Ok this has been bugging me for some time. So I am just going to say it. 

The audience knows that kate loves castle. Kate herself knows that she loves castle. She also knows that he loves her. She decided to stall on the relationship becoz she felt that until she solves her mom's murder she cant be in the relationship she wants to be in. This changed in ep 9 where she decided she wants to be 'more' than her mom's murder. Now it is 4 episodes after that. 

So what exactly is stopping her from coming clean with castle? Is she afraid that admitting her love also means admitting that she heard him which means she can potentially lose him???? If thats the case, then i would find it selfish, becoz if she loves one person, then she must also be ready to face their wrath!!! 

This is the only reason i can think as to why kate is not coming clean with castle yet!!! 

I don't think Kate is afraid of Rick being mad about hearing ILY.  Kate is holding back from a relationship because she is still working on herself.  The reason she thinks it is necessary to work on herself before getting into a relationship with Rick is because of all her previous relationships.  She has sabotaged all of them by never really being completely "in".  And she wants to be fully invested and committed in a relationship with Rick.  Since Rick basically agreed that he would wait for her until she was ready and would help her in whatever way he could to get ready, I don't think she is being selfish. 

But stana in a recent interview said that kate is ready to dive into a relationship with castle. Which means she has worked on herself! 

 

True.  At this point a lot of the work has been done.  I guess I was thinking more about the whole season.  Kate probably is worried about how to approach Rick with the ILY secret, but I just don't think it is a big deal overall or the real reason she was stalling.  IMO we should see some serious movement on the relationship front in the two-parter, because Kate really should be about ready.

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lulu12345 said:

RickNotCastle said:

lulu12345 said:

Ok this has been bugging me for some time. So I am just going to say it. 

The audience knows that kate loves castle. Kate herself knows that she loves castle. She also knows that he loves her. She decided to stall on the relationship becoz she felt that until she solves her mom's murder she cant be in the relationship she wants to be in. This changed in ep 9 where she decided she wants to be 'more' than her mom's murder. Now it is 4 episodes after that. 

So what exactly is stopping her from coming clean with castle? Is she afraid that admitting her love also means admitting that she heard him which means she can potentially lose him???? If thats the case, then i would find it selfish, becoz if she loves one person, then she must also be ready to face their wrath!!! 

This is the only reason i can think as to why kate is not coming clean with castle yet!!! 

 

I don't think Kate is afraid of Rick being mad about hearing ILY.  Kate is holding back from a relationship because she is still working on herself.  The reason she thinks it is necessary to work on herself before getting into a relationship with Rick is because of all her previous relationships.  She has sabotaged all of them by never really being completely "in".  And she wants to be fully invested and committed in a relationship with Rick.  Since Rick basically agreed that he would wait for her until she was ready and would help her in whatever way he could to get ready, I don't think she is being selfish. 

  

But stana in a recent interview said that kate is ready to dive into a relationship with castle. Which means she has worked on herself! 

I'm pretty sure that what Stana said was that Beckett was almost ready.  A very important distinction.

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Next thing you know she's almost pregnant. ROFL

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Next thing you know she's almost pregnant. ROFL

 

Please!!! You are better than that. That`s really low Smile. Or do you really think that she could be pregnant from having this little hand-sex Laugh?

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