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EW.com Heat Rises Plot Synopsis 4/8/11
April 9, 2011
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hurin said:

Well, in the sneak peak for next week's epi, Martha says Castle's writing style is to procrastinate until the last minute, then write frantically with the deadline looming.  Maybe he writes the book this summer.

Then it wouldn't make sense to me to release the synopsis now. 

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April 9, 2011
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Then it wouldn't make sense to me to release the synopsis now.

except in real life the book is more than likely already been written, or close to being finished. I am not in the publishing business, but with everything that is obvious to me to make a book ready to sell it should take many, many months of work and logistics. (Printing, binding, getting quotes from other authors and reviewers, covers, shipping etc etc etc.

April 9, 2011
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jrabbit said:

Then it wouldn't make sense to me to release the synopsis now.

except in real life the book is more than likely already been written, or close to being finished. I am not in the publishing business, but with everything that is obvious to me to make a book ready to sell it should take many, many months of work and logistics. (Printing, binding, getting quotes from other authors and reviewers, covers, shipping etc etc etc.

yes it does take a while to get all the prepress blocking done and all that. I got my bachelors degree in graphic design and unless the writer of the book is actually typing the book on a computer (which we have seen castle typing away on his laptop) someone would have to hand type the pages into a computer.  even then there would still have to be some font changes proof reading, the artist who has done the cover probably went through several different stages of proofing to get the front correct and stuff.

since this book is a best seller i would not be surprised if they use one company to do all the prepress designing including plate making and then send the plates off to several different companies to do the actual printing. then it goes to several different binding and finishing houses and then off to us in the book stores. i just looked at the front and back pages of naked heat and they dont say anything about where the book is printed.

surprisingly in the harry potter books on one of the last few pages they give a description of what font they used, size of font where it was printed at and such. i always found that interesting. figure that the book has to be in final stages about now. the real writer of the book probably is waiting to see what the season does so he may not have the actual final chapter (s) done but he probably has the bulk of the book done. 

 

 

April 9, 2011
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How does all that jive with Castle's propensity to wait until the last minute, as someone said above?  Sorry everyone, but none of this timeline makes sense.  I agree it does take time to generate a book, and that it's possible that his publisher has a synopsis of the book, but I just don't see how he could include a plotline in the book that he hasn't experienced in the show.  He puts in the book what he goes through in the show, so how could he know about Beckett's being forced into a leave of absence or having to turn over her badge for going rogue if it hasn't happened yet.

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April 9, 2011
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Nev827 said:

How does all that jive with Castle's propensity to wait until the last minute, as someone said above?  Sorry everyone, but none of this timeline makes sense.  I agree it does take time to generate a book, and that it's possible that his publisher has a synopsis of the book, but I just don't see how he could include a plotline in the book that he hasn't experienced in the show.  He puts in the book what he goes through in the show, so how could he know about Beckett's being forced into a leave of absence or having to turn over her badge for going rogue if it hasn't happened yet.

Well, it hasn't happened yet, for us, as viewers. But I guess the writers of the show have known for quite some time what would happen. So… Marlowe had enough time to write the book, or maybe the book hasn't been written yet, but they already have a general outline. I know… it's cheap, if you think of it from a coherent standpoint. Castle would certainly not have known beforehand what would happen. But it's Andrew who writes Castle's books, not Castle…

April 9, 2011
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Well, it hasn't happened yet, for us, as viewers. But I guess the writers of the show have known for quite some time what would happen. So… Marlowe had enough time to write the book, or maybe the book hasn't been written yet, but they already have a general outline. I know… it's cheap, if you think of it from a coherent standpoint. Castle would certainly not have known beforehand what would happen. But it's Andrew who writes Castle's books, not Castle…

Also, Beckett HAS been kicked off the case before.  So it wouldn't be too much of a leap to assume Castle would take that story and have it go further to her losing her badge – even before she actually does, IF she does.  So by September and we read the book, we go "art imitating (fake) life"! Though it's really, "(fake) life imitating art" (Art imitating art?  I'm confusing myself.)  Point is, I think it's possible.  I think it's not the first time either that Castle has written the future…where tiny plot points from the books made their way into the series much later, though I have to reread the books to be positive on that.   The books and the series to me are like big in jokes wrapped up in each other.

April 9, 2011
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This is all just theorizing.  I am not even sure I truly believe that the season will end with Beckett thrown off the force.  But, this is a TV show.  In the last book, Castle didn't finish it until the Summer.  Yet, it was magically published in September.  I don't think the writers care that, in real life, it would take much longer.

I don't see why they couldn't have a scenario where Beckett is thrown off the force and Castle writes about it over the summer (if they chose to do that).

April 9, 2011
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Also, Beckett HAS been kicked off the case before.  So it wouldn't be too much of a leap to assume Castle would take that story and have it go further to her losing her badge – even before she actually does, IF she does.  So by September and we read the book, we go "art imitating (fake) life"! Though it's really, "(fake) life imitating art" (Art imitating art?  I'm confusing myself.)  Point is, I think it's possible.  I think it's not the first time either that Castle has written the future…where tiny plot points from the books made their way into the series much later, though I have to reread the books to be positive on that.   The books and the series to me are like big in jokes wrapped up in each other.

Now THAT makes sense to me.  Thanks evesix.  I was beginning to wonder if in typing I had lapsed into a foreign language and that was why nothing made sense to me.

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April 10, 2011
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I went back to check out some of the Richard Castle Facebook/Twitter pages to see when Heat Rises was first mentioned. Turns out it was just after Knowdown. The following days there were tweets from RC that should be taken into account when talking about Castle's books talking about things that we (the audience) have not yet seen and things that have not yet happened in our reality.

The tweets were around Jan 25-27 if anyone wants to check

 

Jan 25 (day after Knockdown)

Recovering from this week… by putting it all on the page. 

The problem with using your fists as a weapon is it makes typing a real challenge.  [ ]


Jan 27

Wanna know the name of my next Nikki Heat novel? "HEAT RISES." Now all I need is a story.

Story's in progress. I've got most of the elements… just have to weave the tale.


I also love the fact that RC's style of writing was mentioned in one of the tweets which now made it into an episode (Alexis mentioning 'writing in a caffein induced haze)

Just had 5 cups of coffee…I'm feeling dangerously creative.

 

Can we therefore assume that the plot of the latest book had already been determined by that time and any predictions of future events are possibly coincidental?

If I remember correctly, the only things Castle 'predicted' correctly in his Nikki Heat novels was the Esplanie relationship when he had their counterparts start dating in Naked Heat.

Martha: Freud was an addict but that didn’t stop him from helping people. Castle: Sadly, faced with his monther’s twisted, yet unimpeachable logic, Richard Castle’s head exploded.
April 10, 2011
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Tempus_Fugit said:

 Can we therefore assume that the plot of the latest book had already been determined by that time and any predictions of future events are possibly coincidental?

If I remember correctly, the only things Castle 'predicted' correctly in his Nikki Heat novels was the Esplanie relationship when he had their counterparts start dating in Naked Heat.

And Rook was discovered at a crime scene in the beginning of Naked Heat in a similar way to Castle in 3x01 (those chapters were released before the episode 3x01 and certainly written long before that 3rd season premiere).  There may be other examples of "predictions" but I'd have to scan through the books. 

It is cool when the books come out in September that there are elements that link to more recent events in the series, but I almost wish Castle's inspiration ended half-way through the previous season so there wouldn't be any possible hints to upcoming story lines. 

Although that may not be the case at all with the synopsis linked above…perhaps it is nothing like what will actually happen and was simply inspired by "Castle" taking Beckett's rogue activities this season a step farther in his imagination as evesix said…or perhaps he knows her too well and just "sees" this sort of trouble coming for Beckett. [Image Can Not Be Found]

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April 10, 2011
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And Rook was discovered at a crime scene in the beginning of Naked Heat in a similar way to Castle in 3x01 (those chapters were released before the episode 3x01 and certainly written long before that 3rd season premiere).  There may be other examples of "predictions" but I'd have to scan through the books. 

True, how could I forget that? Sorry.

Martha: Freud was an addict but that didn’t stop him from helping people. Castle: Sadly, faced with his monther’s twisted, yet unimpeachable logic, Richard Castle’s head exploded.
April 10, 2011
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hurin said:

This is all just theorizing.  I am not even sure I truly believe that the season will end with Beckett thrown off the force.  But, this is a TV show.  In the last book, Castle didn't finish it until the Summer.  Yet, it was magically published in September.  I don't think the writers care that, in real life, it would take much longer.

I don't see why they couldn't have a scenario where Beckett is thrown off the force and Castle writes about it over the summer (if they chose to do that).

From my understanding in real life it's about a year from the time that a writer finishes a book to the time it shows up on a shelf for purchase.  One of my favorite writers missed a deadline, and as a result, the book was delayed close to a year.  I remember her talking about printing schedules, editing, blah, blah, and how she missed her place in the shoot, on her web page.  It's a really long process once the book is actually written.  If this holds true, then I would think that Heat Rises was finished sometime last fall, and that the forth Nikki Heat book is being written write now. 

It makes the whole process of how they get the book put together really interesting to me if it is based it a season that is still being created.  Just the logistics are daunting, not to mention the story.  Does the author get some sort of an outline as to the series events and he goes from there?  How much oversight does the writing team for Castle have?  Any?  What happens when they make changes to the season?  Anything?

It's just one more thing that adds to my admiration to the creativity of TPTB at Castle.  One wonders when they have time to fit it all in.  It's marketing genus, plus a whole lot of fun for the fans.  

April 12, 2011
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You wanna bet about the dedication?

"Always."

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April 12, 2011
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nike75 said:

You wanna bet about the dedication?

"Always."

Now that would be great! [Image Can Not Be Found] I just love their secret code. I'm sure Beckett would be touched.

April 12, 2011
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nike75 said:

You wanna bet about the dedication?

"Always."

That would awesome.  My other thought on this some time ago was that Castle dedicate the book to Johanna for giving the world her daughter, but this would be sweet too. 

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