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Interrogation Scenes NEED WORK!!
October 6, 2011
9:32 am
Cyclone Ranger
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 I’m curious. Is all of police work simply finding a few clues that point to someone and say to him “You killed him!” and wait for them to say “No I didn’t?”

Are the days of Colombo gone? Do the real detectives do this, or do they use much more subtle techniques to get them to trip themselves up?

I guess to be a really good criminal these days, all you have to do is train yourself not to react to anyone who says “You killed him.”

I am a big fan of the show otherwise, the characters are developing well, the main and sub-plots are interesting to follow, but the interrogations NEED WORK!

October 6, 2011
11:30 am
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Cyclone Ranger said:

 I’m curious. Is all of police work simply finding a few clues that point to someone and say to him “You killed him!” and wait for them to say “No I didn’t?”

Are the days of Colombo gone? Do the real detectives do this, or do they use much more subtle techniques to get them to trip themselves up?

I guess to be a really good criminal these days, all you have to do is train yourself not to react to anyone who says “You killed him.”

I am a big fan of the show otherwise, the characters are developing well, the main and sub-plots are interesting to follow, but the interrogations NEED WORK!

Curious, are you a new viewer? Because this is the first time I have heard anyone complain about the interrogations and they are the same interrogations we've done from the beginning. 

I think it's important to remember there is a dual focus to this show.  Yes, there are the cases, but there is also the development of the relationship.  They only have 42-43 minutes to cram a lot of information into and there can't be so much time spent focusing on one aspect (like interrogations) and ignoring the others .. we get the short snippets of interrogations, enough to give us the info we need, and we move on to the rest of the story.

Why do you expect Castle to be like all the other shows?  The fact that it isn't is why I love it.  And I'm sorry, but it's not fair to compare Castle to Colombo, to The Rockford Files, to Moonlighting… Castle is it's own show, and it's earned the right to be seen as such. 

October 6, 2011
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I don't expect Castle to be like any of the other shows, the problem is they are doing the same thing as ALL the other shows! CSI, Law & order, NCIS… they all slumped into this "You did it" : "No I didn't" pattern.  I watch Castle because I think it is excellent in virtually every other aspect of the storytelling.  (Plus I'm fans of Nathan (since Firefly), and Bond Girl Stana) The fact that the interrogation scenes are exactly the same as all the other cops shows is the one thing that I think they can improve.  They don't have to concentrate on it, they just have to get out of the rut every other cop show is in. (Besides, the series is about a mystery writer: cleverly trying to trap a suspect would be more in line that theme than the direct accusation method!)

October 6, 2011
12:16 pm
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That's cool, you are entitled to your opinion.  I just don't see anything wrong with the way they are doing it.. interrogation is interrogation..

And it's not a constant "you did it" "no I didn't" but even when it could be seen as such, it is what is said after that allows them to get further in the investigation

In "Heroes and Villains"  Beckett & Castle were able to figure out that the reporter did NOT murder the victim by the questions they asked.. it was done very well. 

In Head Case, Beckett lays out very clearly that the cryogenics guy is always cutting her off and getting into her way BEFORE she even implies that he may have "done it"

In other interrogations they have cleverly trapped the suspect in lies and caught the suspect red-handed. 

For me, it works.  I'd rather they focus on the cases they are creating the fixing something that isn't necessarily broke.

JMO

October 6, 2011
12:31 pm
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@Cyclone Ranger I agree! Not that I have any problems with the show either. I just think it would be exciting for the sake of psychology. Cause like, real interrogators use some hard core psychology on people to control the situation and get them to say what they want them to say. We don't really see that too much on tv. They've eluded several times on the show, to how good Beckett supposedly is at interrogating people and getting what she wants out of them… but we haven't seen it play out too much.. IMO. What docvap said is true too though. I think they put thought into the interrogations, but it is very fomulaic (which is common/useful in tv) but it'd be cool to expand it some. Most of all, I love how they always get the killer to monologue about how it all went down. Lol. wink But, we can't really complain right? We all love the show anyway.

October 6, 2011
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OOoo you know what would be cool? (on a side note.) A procedural show where they solve crimes and catch bad guys but then, there's a spin-off show that's like, a courtroom drama where all the criminals they catch then go to court and we see if they get convicted. Ahaha! That'd be so awesome. [Image Can Not Be Found]

October 6, 2011
12:44 pm
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If they're doing the exact same thing as every other crime show on TV, and it has no basis in real police work, I'd say it's broke. With slightly more imagination, or research, the writers can make the scene more real and still have the same outcome, i.e "figure out that the reporter did NOT murder the victim by the questions they asked." (note: They figured it out by “asked questions,” they could have started without saying “You did it.”)

 

This is meant as constructive criticism. When every single crime show handles every single interrogation in the exact same way, there is something is broke with TV writing in general.

I happened to like this particular show, and the writing excels in virtually every other aspect, copying every other show’s interrogation scenes detracts from it.

October 6, 2011
12:45 pm
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Per side note: I think it's been done!!

October 6, 2011
12:51 pm
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I do not have a problem with interrogation scenes in this show, think that are appropriately intense and/or humorous from time to time. I use different criteria for shows like Law and Order which aim to be more realistic, I think.

I have noticed in last episode when porn producer (or what ever) was interrogated someone brought ballistics report on his gun and just knocked and waited for Beckett to open the door. Usually they just enter and say "Detective can I have a word?" or something. I wonder if this was done on purpose, to raise the suspense and/or to put pressure on the suspect.

October 6, 2011
12:51 pm
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double post

October 6, 2011
1:03 pm
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another double post -sorry

October 6, 2011
1:12 pm
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docvap said:

docvap said:

I guess if you want to focus on finding something to complain about, you will find something.  Just not my nature I guess.

I mean I am sorry if I am coming across a little strong but your very first post on the site is a criticism, constructive or not, it's a criticism.  I just don't understand people who say the love the show, but are very quick to criticize about what they don't like rather than voice what they do like. 

I mean I get it, people are different in how they think, how they perceive things. And we love to discuss the show and ALL aspect of it.  I guess to come right out of the gate criticizing rubs some of us wrong.

But again, thankfully AWM and the writer's are thick skinned.  They can take the criticisms and let it roll off their backs.  But I think they are doing a fantastic job.

 

BTW – on a side note, Welcome to the site Cyclone Ranger.  I look forward to more debates with you

October 6, 2011
1:39 pm
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Hmmm…

I think this is a non-problem. All the way back to Nanny McDead and Hedge Fund Homeboys, I see a tremendous variety of solutions. Most interrogation scenes (whether in The Box, or not) do not solve the MotW, they just yield further clues. The real solutions often are Columbo-like, sometimes with a potential suspect, usually when pondering the clues and something 'just clicks'.

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October 6, 2011
2:27 pm
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I actually noticed a chance in the interrogation scenes with Beckett. She seems more adament to get a confession. She already was like that before, but she lets her temper flare a bit more which was clearly visible in the last 2 episodes.

I love the interrogation scenes. It really shows Stana's range of acting skills and like Rob Bowman once said: "It's her room. She owns it physically and mentally and when she's interrogating, she can stare you down and never blinks."

October 6, 2011
10:59 pm
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I also noticed the same thing she is quick to get a confession I think due to Gates. She feels the pressure to impress the new boss I also noticed that it seems like Castle is doing a lot of questioning so far. He almost takes over the interrogation in some scenes it just seems stranger than normal.

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