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Why doesn't Detective Beckett quit?

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5:20 pm
October 17, 2009


Boston Scientist

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Obviously, there are many reasons why Beckett doesn't just quit her job when Montgomery tells her that the mayor expects her to cooperate.  I wish they would explain the reasons to the audience.  She's complained to the captain more than once, so I'd like to see Beckett have a serious conversation with Lanie about how she's being taken advantage of and the possibility of leaving.  Does Montgomery expect her to put up with a tag-along indefinitely?  My guess is Beckett has another 10 to 15 years before she collects her pension.  Is it worth it? Idea Sad

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6:31 pm
October 17, 2009


unniw

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I totally agree! The program is called Castle, Fillion was the bigger star, and every episode ends with Castle, mostly with his family. We got to know a lot about him from the start. And most things are told from his point of view. But Beckett is the more interesting character. Which means not just Castle, but also the viewers wants to peel the layers of the Beckett onion. We're presented with a strong woman – so why doesn't she protest more when her life is invaded by Castle? We know she's a fan of his books, but she is obviously conflicted when it comes to his presence and actions. We get a lot of scenes of Castle's private life. Give us more on Beckett!

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7:10 pm
October 17, 2009


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If Beckett quit, I'd stop watching the show. She is definitely the most interesting character on "Castle" and Stana is doing just brilliant job with her. I watch the show mostly for her, less for Nathan.

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7:25 pm
October 17, 2009


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I think at first she's annoyed, but she's also intrigued. She is a fan and I would think that her protests at first were perfunctory and not 100% heartfelt. 

If she weren't a fan, I would agree she would probably be more proactive about it.

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7:35 pm
October 17, 2009


Boston Scientist

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Please read my original post more carefully.  I am not suggesting that Beckett quit.  Obviously, if she did, there wouldn't be much of a story.  I'm wondering why we do not see the reasons Beckett is stuck in this situation.  Clearly, quitting is not a viable option.  However, I don't think she intends to continually complain about having a tag-along if it's not getting her anywhere.  Beckett does not strike me as the kind of person to accept being pushed around, even if it is by her boss.  I expect that there will be more resistance from her if Montgomery anticipates continuance of this arrangement.  She's smart enough to figure out a way to gain some control.  I wonder how she'll do it. Idea

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7:48 pm
October 17, 2009


ollin

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I think it has something to do with her mother's death. While Beckett did tell Castle not to look into her mother's death any more Beckett might want some type of resolution. She did become a cop because of her mother's death. I don't think she want's to quit just because of Castle being annoying.

7:56 pm
October 17, 2009


nalissa2

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Boston Scientist said:Please read my original post more carefully.  I am not suggesting that Beckett quit.  Obviously, if she did, there wouldn't be much of a story.  I'm wondering why we do not see the reasons Beckett is stuck in this situation.  Clearly, quitting is not a viable option.  However, I don't think she intends to continually complain about having a tag-along if it's not getting her anywhere.  Beckett does not strike me as the kind of person to accept being pushed around, even if it is by her boss.  I expect that there will be more resistance from her if Montgomery anticipates continuance of this arrangement.  She's smart enough to figure out a way to gain some control.  I wonder how she'll do it. Idea


It could be she puts up with it because as much as she is annoyed at times at his antics she does value his input and they do solve some very difficult cases, probably faster than if she were going it alone. It's like her line at in The Double Down when Ryan and Esposito are seemingly getting ahead in their case much to their dismay. "Are we really rooting against solving a murder?"

Solving murders and helping the families of the victims is what drives Detective Beckett. If that means having an overgrown boyscout tag along she'll put up with it as long as it's useful.

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8:02 pm
October 17, 2009


Boston Scientist

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nalissa2 said:

It could be she puts up with it because as much as she is annoyed at times at his antics she does value his input and they do solve some very difficult cases, probably faster than if she were going it alone. It's like her line at in The Double Down when Ryan and Esposito are seemingly getting ahead in their case much to their dismay. "Are we really rooting against solving a murder?"

Solving murders and helping the families of the victims is what drives Detective Beckett. If that means having an overgrown boyscout tag along she'll put up with it as long as it's useful.


Then why does she keep complaining to Montgomery about it?  It's not like she's complaining to Esposito & Ryan or Lanie.  She's going to her boss.

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8:46 pm
October 17, 2009


nalissa2

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Boston Scientist said:

nalissa2 said:

It could be she puts up with it because as much as she is annoyed at times at his antics she does value his input and they do solve some very difficult cases, probably faster than if she were going it alone. It's like her line at in The Double Down when Ryan and Esposito are seemingly getting ahead in their case much to their dismay. "Are we really rooting against solving a murder?"

Solving murders and helping the families of the victims is what drives Detective Beckett. If that means having an overgrown boyscout tag along she'll put up with it as long as it's useful.


Then why does she keep complaining to Montgomery about it?  It's not like she's complaining to Esposito & Ryan or Lanie.  She's going to her boss.


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9:08 pm
October 17, 2009


Boston Scientist

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nalissa2 said:

She's complicated. Innocent


Don't give me the Beckett eye roll, nalissa. Tongue

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9:14 pm
October 17, 2009


lilmac41319

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nalissa2 said:

Boston Scientist said:

nalissa2 said:

It could be she puts up with it because as much as she is annoyed at times at his antics she does value his input and they do solve some very difficult cases, probably faster than if she were going it alone. It's like her line at in The Double Down when Ryan and Esposito are seemingly getting ahead in their case much to their dismay. "Are we really rooting against solving a murder?"

Solving murders and helping the families of the victims is what drives Detective Beckett. If that means having an overgrown boyscout tag along she'll put up with it as long as it's useful.


Then why does she keep complaining to Montgomery about it?  It's not like she's complaining to Esposito & Ryan or Lanie.  She's going to her boss.


She's complicated. Innocent


She's a woman! I think she only goes to Montgomery because he's like another father figure to her. If she were to tell Ryan, Esposito, or Lanie about how much she is bothered by Castle they would just view it as her complaining and brush it off. No one wants to be that co-worker that just complains about their situation. When Beckett tells Montgomery about it, she's getting some feedback on it.

9:39 pm
October 17, 2009


Jamz

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The only reason I can think of for why she'd complain again is that her feelings have changed. I could see her talking about it to Lainie but no way she'd confess such feelings to Ryan and Esposito. While we've seen more layers to her this season they've presented her as having two lives. One she presents at work and one outside of work we've yet to really see.

I don't think she'd ever date someone from work. It could be possible she's complaining because she wants to explore a relationship in a more personal setting? It would help if they'd explain why he's still allowed to tag along other than to make the Mayor happy. It has to go deeper than he likes the good publicity.

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9:15 am
October 18, 2009


nalissa2

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Jamz said:

The only reason I can think of for why she'd complain again is that her feelings have changed. I could see her talking about it to Lainie but no way she'd confess such feelings to Ryan and Esposito. While we've seen more layers to her this season they've presented her as having two lives. One she presents at work and one outside of work we've yet to really see.

I don't think she'd ever date someone from work. It could be possible she's complaining because she wants to explore a relationship in a more personal setting? It would help if they'd explain why he's still allowed to tag along other than to make the Mayor happy. It has to go deeper than he likes the good publicity.


Let's not forget she has also admitted to the Captain on more than one occasion that he's helped them on the really tough cases. She had the perfect opportunity to be rid of him during Deep In Death, but didn't. I think she's not thrilled at certain aspects of his tag along since her police work seems to be more low key rather than Castle's flamboyant approach but she's certainly not closed off to his ideas or help.

Besides she'd better get used to the spotlight. After Heat Wave hits and she becomes a "celebrity cop" she'll have more of that showy aspect to deal with. It won't just be just be suspects going "Richard Castle -the writer?".  It'll be; "You're Nikki Heat? Can I be your sparring partner." Shock

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9:24 am
October 18, 2009


lilmac41319

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nalissa2 said: "You're Nikki Heat? Can I be your sparring partner." Shock


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1:11 pm
October 18, 2009


Boston Scientist

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nalissa2 said:

Let's not forget she has also admitted to the Captain on more than one occasion that he's helped them on the really tough cases. She had the perfect opportunity to be rid of him during Deep In Death, but didn't. I think she's not thrilled at certain aspects of his tag along since her police work seems to be more low key rather than Castle's flamboyant approach but she's certainly not closed off to his ideas or help.


It's obvious that Beckett is conflicted about having Castle around.  That's a given.  However, we're supposed to see her as an absolute professional and I don't think it's very professional for her to be constantly whining to her boss about an arrangement that he has already committed her to.  Beckett ain't no Cry.  So what's it all about?  I really think there's more to it than we understand.

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1:35 pm
October 18, 2009


GreenyJess

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Hmm, I'm not getting that she's that upset about the tag-along anymore. I think she's more concerned about what he's going to write in further books about her. Presumably, by this point, she's finished Heat Wave… or at least finished Chap. 10, lol.

2:34 pm
October 18, 2009


KalliopePL

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Boston Scientist said:

nalissa2 said:

Let's not forget she has also admitted to the Captain on more than one occasion that he's helped them on the really tough cases. She had the perfect opportunity to be rid of him during Deep In Death, but didn't. I think she's not thrilled at certain aspects of his tag along since her police work seems to be more low key rather than Castle's flamboyant approach but she's certainly not closed off to his ideas or help.


It's obvious that Beckett is conflicted about having Castle around.  That's a given.  However, we're supposed to see her as an absolute professional and I don't think it's very professional for her to be constantly whining to her boss about an arrangement that he has already committed her to.  Beckett ain't no Cry.  So what's it all about?  I really think there's more to it than we understand.


Once in 5 episodes is not "constantly".

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3:39 pm
October 18, 2009


lilmac41319

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GreenyJess said:

Hmm, I'm not getting that she's that upset about the tag-along anymore. I think she's more concerned about what he's going to write in further books about her. Presumably, by this point, she's finished Heat Wave… or at least finished Chap. 10, lol.


And she has to be worried at how people in her field are going to view her if they all know Nikki was based off of her. Beckett is most likely worried that everyone will assume that she is just like Nikki Heat.

3:46 pm
October 18, 2009


Rvandsing (St Louis area)

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She may be worried about what happens when her fellow detectives read Heat Wave and discover page 105!!!  They may make an "inappropriate" assumption about her relationship with Castle.  Certainly, there will be plenty of fodder for some "jokes" at Beckett's expense by her fellow detectives.

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10:46 pm
October 19, 2009


ghosst

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A Homicide Detective's #1 job is to close cases, and every case Castle has tagged along on has been closed.

Why would a Det. Beckett complain about closing cases? The more cases she closes, the better her numbers look, which is the bottom line to her Bosses

2:59 am
October 20, 2009


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unniw said:

I totally agree! The program is called Castle, Fillion was the bigger star, and every episode ends with Castle, mostly with his family. We got to know a lot about him from the start. And most things are told from his point of view. But Beckett is the more interesting character. Which means not just Castle, but also the viewers wants to peel the layers of the Beckett onion. We're presented with a strong woman – so why doesn't she protest more when her life is invaded by Castle? We know she's a fan of his books, but she is obviously conflicted when it comes to his presence and actions. We get a lot of scenes of Castle's private life. Give us more on Beckett!


I agree with this. And I definately think that Beckett is a strong character and I'm surprised as well that they haven't had a scene with her confronting someone about all that's been going on. We keep seeing a lot of Castle, hopefully they switch it up so we can get more of Beckett.

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1:30 pm
October 20, 2009


GreenyJess

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To quote Ryan: "Beckett isn't exactly what you'd call a 'sharer.'"

We're not supposed to know all her motivations yet. Those Beckett onion layers are gonna come off slowly, to be sure.

6:36 pm
October 28, 2009


Alexander

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I don't think its the tag along that she minds she see's what hes capible of writing in his books. She's afraid that if he makes more books that those books might start digging into the story of her mothers murder. I'm sure that the thought of someone making money off the story of how her mother was killed would scar her for life. Read

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12:34 am
October 29, 2009


angie1379

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My guess would be that this arrangement with Castle has evolved in stages, leaving her to have to adjust in small incriments, which by themselves don't amount to enough for her to threaten to leave her job. At first, he was "assisting" with a case. Then he wanted to shadow her "for a little while". And now, he's all but joined the force. How could she mount a case against any single of those situations without looking petty and unprofessional? After all, no one else sees a problem with the arrangement.

Also, part of it seems to be the structure of the police force. Her captain gave her an order. A detective can't just say no. Her complaints thus far seem to be an effort to let Montgomery know that she's agreeing to this very grudgingly, which may give her some leverage in the future when she wants something he's not in favor of.

8:26 am
November 3, 2009


monique

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Beckett does not want to quit – she loves being a cop and she's good at it.  Probably they'll have to make Castle a detective now too, especially after all he did in the last episode.  Maybe the NYPD has a special title for him like assistant detective CastleCrazy.  Better not let him carry a gun.  It seems like Esposito and Ryan have lesser roles these days, while the focus is on Kate and Richard.

Since we fans assume that Kate and Rickie will eventually hook up, I would say that she is just pretending to be annoyed by the tag-along.  Secretly of course she is in love with Castle, so this new book contract is the best thing that could have happened.  She now has to play her cards just right and let the layers peel off one by one, week by week.  It would be nice to have a bit more flirting outside of the office. 



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