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Would Beckett take the Castle name?
August 21, 2011
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I was under the impression that he had changed his name legally to Richard Edgar Castle.  He talks about changing it not using a pen name. 

My brother who lived in New York State at the time, changed his name.  All it took was some legal papers, an affidavit and a trip in front of a judge.  And it was around the same time Castle would have been changing his name, come to think of it…

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August 21, 2011
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ACF said:

I was under the impression that he had changed his name legally to Richard Edgar Castle.  He talks about changing it not using a pen name. 

My brother who lived in New York State at the time, changed his name.  All it took was some legal papers, an affidavit and a trip in front of a judge.  And it was around the same time Castle would have been changing his name, come to think of it…

Well… ok, then it's different from where I live… My bad.

August 21, 2011
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ACF said:  

My brother who lived in New York State at the time, changed his name.  All it took was some legal papers, an affidavit and a trip in front of a judge.  And it was around the same time Castle would have been changing his name, come to think of it…

 

Maybe they were in line together and spoke….LOL 

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August 21, 2011
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Personally, I think that Castle changed his name because Richard Castle sounds a little more appealing than Richard Rogers. Also, I also think that Kate would probably hyphenate it Kate Beckett-Castle. That would work. 

August 21, 2011
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I think its also possible he wanted to separate his career from his mother's.  Sometimes people with celebrity parents want their success, or failure, to be of their own making.

Even if Kate hyphenated her name, she would still go by Kate Castle.  The hyphenated name is usually only used when signing documents and such.  People don't call you Mrs. Beckett-Castle, they would just say Mrs. Castle, or Det. Castle, or Kate Castle.  Which brings us back to the weirdness of the name Kate Castle.  <bleh>

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August 21, 2011
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I think most countries you can legally change your name whenever you like, my bro changed his last name because he didn't like my father.

I know in the US some idiots change their name just so they can be called something totally ridiculous.

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August 21, 2011
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Well… where I live, it's complicated. I talked about it with my brother once. He's a lawyer. You can't change your name if you don't have a good reason to change it (when you have a name that has a negative or discriminatory connotation to it for example). You can't do it just because you want to. Even when you're allowed to change your name, your new name has to be close to your birth name. If it's too different, it's not authorized. [Image Can Not Be Found]

I never really liked my last name…

You guys are lucky. It never crossed my mind that it could be different in other countries. Sorry again for my mistake.

August 21, 2011
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Admin said:

I think most countries you can legally change your name whenever you like, my bro changed his last name because he didn't like my father.

I know in the US some idiots change their name just so they can be called something totally ridiculous.

 

The rediculousness of it all is a bit much sometimes, but that's what you get when you live in the land of the free and the brave….LOL 

 

I'm sorry to hear your family's difficulty with one another.  Your brothers need to separate himself from his father is one thing, but to change his name removed his lineage, which is an entirely different issue altogether.

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August 21, 2011
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FillKat said:

I think its also possible he wanted to separate his career from his mother's.  Sometimes people with celebrity parents want their success, or failure, to be of their own making.

Even if Kate hyphenated her name, she would still go by Kate Castle.  The hyphenated name is usually only used when signing documents and such.  People don't call you Mrs. Beckett-Castle, they would just say Mrs. Castle, or Det. Castle, or Kate Castle.  Which brings us back to the weirdness of the name Kate Castle.  <bleh>

The line in one of the shows was he changed his name because 'Richard Rodgers/Rogers' was already taken – meaning Richard Rodgers, as in Broadway and Hollywood's musical theatre composers Rodgers and Hammerstein (Oklahoma!, The Sound of Music, etc., etc.).  Not exactly the name to use on murder mysteries.  So he kept his first name, changed his second in honour of Edgar Allen Poe and made up a new last name.

There are no hard and fast rules about what you 'go by' with hyphenated names (or for much of anything else either). I've got friends who introduce themselves as Mr Jonas and Mrs Jonas-Wright, others where she flips back and forth among just her birth name, just his name and using both.  Only place it really matters is on official documents – like marriage certificates, birth certificates and passports (at least in most common law countries – like Canada, the US, UK & Australia).    

August 21, 2011
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ACF said:

I was under the impression that he had changed his name legally to Richard Edgar Castle.  He talks about changing it not using a pen name. 

My brother who lived in New York State at the time, changed his name.  All it took was some legal papers, an affidavit and a trip in front of a judge.  And it was around the same time Castle would have been changing his name, come to think of it…

Under the original English rules – some derivation of virtually all English speaking countries apply – all you had to do is take up using another name publicly – and it became yours.  No formalities (of any kind) involved.  But that was before you had to show official documents to join the gym, let alone get on a plane, etc. etc.  But even now, the process in most of those same countries is pretty simple – and much as you describe.  The only issue is that you aren't trying to hide from the authorities via name change (so there's supposed to be an official record of the change).  

My union (the law society) makes it more complicated – but that's only to change the name under which you practise law. But lawyers always make things more complicated than they need to.  Sounds like the French make it even more complicated.   

August 21, 2011
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I have a whole theory about why he picked Castle having to do with what he might have been reading as a boy in the public library. 

Just think about it…  Once and Future King… The Lady of Shalott… A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court…   Knights, *Castle*s, moats, chivalry, Arthur Pendragon – the bastard son who became king…  Oh oh… Pen*dragon* – that means "son of Dragon"  …  (heh, I'm just kidding about that last part….[Image Can Not Be Found]) 

I could see Castle being enthralled by that world and even feel a kinship to Arthur and his quest for legitimacy in a world of hard knocks.  Having the seed that was planted as a boy bear fruit as he thought about what name he wanted as a man has a kind of poetic ring to it.   Not to mention the publishing company that ultimately picked up his contract is called Black *Pawn*… (Was he looking for a place to submit that first manuscript back at the very beginning of his career and contemplating a name change?)  and he would think it was funny to be named after a more powerful piece than his publisher… 

…  I know… just the ramblings of a mind wracked with OCD and Castle withdrawal…  [Image Can Not Be Found]

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August 22, 2011
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ACF I like the way your wracked and Castle deprived mind works smile

 

GhostWriter interesting tidbits of information.

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August 22, 2011
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And then there is the report I read somewhere that is you say 'Rick Castle' out loud really quickly you get another totally different idea!

August 22, 2011
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When they showed Castle's will in "Wrapped up in death" The name said Richard Edgar Castle did'nt it. Sounds official to me. I think you would have to have your real name on a document such as that. In any case depending on whatever union or writers guild he would have desired or been required to join, the 'Richard Rogers' name would have been a problem because of, well, Richard Rogers. 

August 22, 2011
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I love this has morphed into such a big deal.[Image Can Not Be Found]

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