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11:12 pm
November 23, 2009


indosinganadian

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posts 57

Sorry Admin but I couldn't find the thread!!

Loved the Alexis, BEckett and Castle scene at the end!!!  3 hours until Castle comes on again!!! Can't wait!!

11:18 pm
November 23, 2009


GreenyJess

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posts 292

Very nice ep!  I thought there was a really good mix of the humor and the drama this time.  I laughed plenty, and the case kept me guessing.

Ryan and Esposito were great this week.

Alexis was adorable!!  And how cute was it that Castle gave her the inspiration she needed to solve her little mystery?  Finally repaying the favor there, lol.

11:59 pm
November 23, 2009


Maddarilke

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posts 9

Once again, I'm being a lazypants and just basically copying what I wrote on LJ, here:

There were "other show references" out the wazoo, weren't there!? BUFFY, DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES (lest we forget the "other gynecologist")…

Re: Castle, Beckett, and Alexis–this was handled beautifully. They aren't all "we're a family" yet, but Alexis is really respectful of Beckett and Beckett is really respecting how Alexis is so different from her father in the responsibility department, but that she has his same tenacity and instincts. :) I think, in a way, that's what Castle is enjoying so much, when he's just looking at Beckett. He's a bit happy that Kate is liking the things about Alexis that he might have influenced directly.

As for Ryan and Esposito!!! SO much more than the comic relief. Their participation, their chemistry with the leads really makes them sort of the third lead, collectively. I so love those two. I look forward to their scenes so much.

I'm really going to suffer until Dec. 7 :(

2:35 am
November 24, 2009


sarah_darling

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Such a great episode! I'll go into detail on things I loved tomorrow, I'm too tired right now.

Becklers do it with the beckle on.

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2:48 am
November 24, 2009


Blackfel

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posts 50

Excellent episode as always, but instead of writing about what I liked this time, I'm going to write about what I'd like to see.

In a nutshell, I think the writers have toned down the relationship between Castle and Beckett to an almost non-existent level, and are in danger of turning "Castle" into just another buddy cop show.  Now don't get me wrong:  "Castle" is still an excellent show, and nothing's going to tear me away from the TV on Monday nights whether or not the relationship ever really develops, but the thing I like the most about this show is the same thing I loved about X-Files, Farscape, Moonlighting, and even Who's the Boss (good God that's a name I haven't heard in a while)…the romantic relationship aspect.

Over the past few episodes, there has been a remarkable lack of flirting going on between the two.  There have been moments of course, but for the most part Castle gives Beckett an opening, and all she does is roll her eyes or shake her head.  I'd love to see more moments like the one between them where Castle notices she smells like cherries, or when she goes home to read his book.  A single scene like these can make an entire episode, if not a season, and by focusing more on the humor, the witty one-liners, and the crime of the week, and less on the budding relationship, the writers are in danger of having Castle enter the "friend zone".  I'm afraid that when it comes time for the story to actually bring them together in a romantic fashion it's not going to feel right because the groundwork hasn't been properly laid out.

Truthfully, what I think the show needs is a hackneyed old "we're stuck with each other in an elevator that we can't get out of and we have no choice but to talk about things that actually mean something instead of one-upping each other" episode to turn up the heat a bit.  I like slow builds, but this is almost the halfway point of season two.  Something needs to happen pretty soon.

Anyway, that's my opinion.  As for this episode, everyone did a phenomenal job…and I'd love to see Alexis become a permanent volunteer around the police station.  She obviously enjoyed the work, and finding ways to bring her into the mix so she can play go-between with Castle and Beckett should be a priority for the writers.  In fact, taking this episode together with last week's episode, I'm wondering if Alexis isn't looking ahead to when she'll be moving away to college…and is actually trying to set her father up with Beckett so she won't have to worry about him when she leaves.  For Beckett's part, she's probably looking at Alexis and thinking "a man that could raise such an extrordinary daughter can't be the buffoon he makes himself out to be.  These waters are deeper than I thought."

Blackfel 

2:55 am
November 24, 2009


Actress27

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posts 518

sarah_darling said:Such a great episode! I'll go into detail on things I loved tomorrow, I'm too tired right now.


I agree, I liked the episode, but details will come tomorrow. lol. I'm much too tied right now.

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3:10 am
November 24, 2009


CKDexter

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posts 29

Blackfel: I agree with you wholeheartedly with what you said about the relationship with Beckett and Castle. I started to notice it in 'Famous Last Words' and on. It's losing it's spunk. Stana and Nathan have amazing chemstry and it should be put to the test, peoples!

I don't know how other people feel about Alexis's wardrobe in this episode, but I was actually annoyed because they made her kind of look like Beckett in a way…I mean, I get that she's the role model, but Alexis has a personality all her own. Everyone on the show has a set identity. So, it's kind of weird to see Alexis come out looking like Beckett…also, I don't think the look suited Molly Quinn very well. Is it just me?? Thoughts??

4:47 am
November 24, 2009


kcastle

Guest

Blackfel said:

iN fact, taking this episode together with last week's episode, I'm wondering if Alexis isn't looking ahead to when she'll be moving away to college…and is actually trying to set her father up with Beckett so she won't have to worry about him when she leaves.  For Beckett's part, she's probably looking at Alexis and thinking "a man that could raise such an extrordinary daughter can't be the buffoon her makes himself out to be.  These waters are deeper than I thought."

Blackfel 


i totally agree with you on this point.

The show is getting better and better at every week.

I will be difficult to wait 2 weeks for the next episode.

5:59 am
November 24, 2009


unniw

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Where's my broom?  Bounce

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7:29 am
November 24, 2009


Thecastlefan

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i loved how beckett and alexis are toghther its so cute overall it hink this was a funny cute and funny episode.

but what sucks is at the end they didnt show 2x11 promo even if its going to be on the 7th of december  i was sad about that.

7:46 am
November 24, 2009


Theresa

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posts 997

i love at the beginning, when they were telling captain montgomery about the whole wife-fiance situation this, and they did this matching head turn thing. Love

i also loved the short scene where castle was making coffee…beckett's expressions were awesome :D

and oh my God. i love the ending of this episode with the whole alexis&photo album thing :D there was this one point where castle looked at beckett..and the look he gave her was just…wow  :D Bounce

and ryan kept me laughing every now and then :D

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7:52 am
November 24, 2009


ollin

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posts 91

This episode was heavy on the case and Alexis's character.  The Alexis and Beckett scenes felt genuine.  I'm guessing this is just the start of their relationship where Alexis can trust Beckett as a role model and confidant.  I just wish there was a little more spark in the Beckett and Castle interactions. 

7:55 am
November 24, 2009


kcastle

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Theresa said:

i also loved the short scene where castle was making coffee…beckett's expressions were awesome :D

and oh my God. i love the ending of this episode with the whole alexis&photo album thing :D there was this one point where castle looked at beckett..and the look he gave her was just…wow  :D Bounce

and ryan kept me laughing every now and then :D


me too …..the short coffee sccene was very cute and so funny. I like moment like that between them

8:23 am
November 24, 2009


monique

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 81

Blackfel:  you said it all, my thoughts exactly!  Why tone down the romance at this point, just when all these fans are coming on board with the expectation of romance between these two?  Just how long will it take for them to even acknowledge their mutual attraction?  I mean, in real life, Castle would have been out the door by now and Kate would have wondered huh? Some fans are going to be turned off.  there are so few romantic shows out there now so I hope we don't miss out on this one too. 

 This episode had a decent case, but I think the shine was definitely on Alexis, that girl is really cool.  Alexis is an impressionable teen, and right now Beckett is her inspiration, so its only natural that she would want to dress like her.  I always love a little colour in clothing, and that pink blouse was nice.  I guess there is going to be a "relationship" between Alexis and Beckett, which is a good thing. 

There were some cute moments between C & B, but nothing really satisfying or forward moving.  I figure the episode with a former girlfriend may thciken the plot, but then again, who knows? 

A christmas episode would be really nice, where everyone can relax in the spirt of the season and stand under the mistletoe by accident…..

9:03 am
November 24, 2009


PeTJa

GaGa

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posts 587

monique said:

A christmas episode would be really nice, where everyone can relax in the spirt of the season and stand under the mistletoe by accident…..


Unfortunately, there will be no xmas episode … *sigh*

OK Castle, but it's accompany and observe, and not participate and annoy, got it?

9:32 am
November 24, 2009


indosinganadian

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 57

yeah I agree with everyone!!

- great Montage of the coffee scene.

- nice that Castle helped Alexis solve something rather than the other way around

- murder kept me guessing

- The broom scene was hilarious (I laughed out loud and was so scared of waking up everyone in the house!!)

- mini-beckett…. I mean Alexis definitely is a natural and probably will end up being a cop or a detective when shes older!!

- Esposito had some really funny lines with Ryan – I'll re-watch today!!

11:12 am
November 24, 2009


Moonie pie

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I fell asleep Love2 at about 10.45. Can someone fill me in, who didi it? & what else did I miss it the final moments.

3:38 pm
November 24, 2009


Seriously?

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posts 399

I actually really liked this episode. You know from reading 90% of what I've posted that I have been pushing for more Caskett/Beckle or whatever you want to call them, moments but I thought that this played on their chemistry rather nicely in some of the scenes. It wasn't as overt as the "cherries" scene, but it worked far better than I expected (I read comments before actually seeing the episode so maybe my expectations were low.)

That said, I absolutely do believe they need to play up the chemistry. This is the thing: the whole premise of this show put the chemistry between Stana and Nathan at the forefront of the series beginning in the pilot episode. This is one of those relationships that really strikes me (and going by many of the posts, lots of other people) as not an "if" they get together, but simply "when". To back off in hopes of dragging it out is what is unrealistic. I feel like a broken record, but while I don't advocate throwing them in to bed 2 episodes from now, I do think that they need to keep giving the fans the "moments".

"Wheres my broom?" is probably my new favorite line. That whole scene was priceless! Stana never disappoints with the way she plays things like that.

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3:50 pm
November 24, 2009


unniw

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I know it reveals more about me than the script, and I know they were talking about Alexis, but my thoughts went a totally diffent way when Beckett said "I'm sure little Castle will be a pleasure."  Shock Embarassed Bounce

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3:58 pm
November 24, 2009


Seriously?

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unniw said:I know it reveals more about me than the script, and I know they were talking about Alexis, but my thoughts went a totally diffent way when Beckett said "I'm sure little Castle will be a pleasure."  Shock Embarassed Bounce



LOL I can't say that ever crossed my mind.

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4:14 pm
November 24, 2009


Moonie pie

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Moonie pie said:I fell asleep Love2 at about 10.45. Can someone fill me in, who didi it? & what else did I miss it the final moments.


pretty please, help me, I can't concentrate till I know " who dunit?"

4:19 pm
November 24, 2009


KalliopePL

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posts 1924

unniw said:I know it reveals more about me than the script, and I know they were talking about Alexis, but my thoughts went a totally diffent way when Beckett said "I'm sure little Castle will be a pleasure."  Shock Embarassed Bounce


Bounce It would be great to see entirely new "little Castle" running around in let's say 3 or 4 seasons Bounce

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4:58 pm
November 24, 2009


unniw

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Moonie pie said:

Moonie pie said:I fell asleep Love2 at about 10.45. Can someone fill me in, who didi it? & what else did I miss it the final moments.


pretty please, help me, I can't concentrate till I know " who dunit?"


what's the last thing you remember?

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5:03 pm
November 24, 2009


Moonie pie

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the last thing I remember was when they had found a house on Long Island & were thinking it might be lady # 3

5:21 pm
November 24, 2009


unniw

Norway

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Moonie pie said:the last thing I remember was when they had found a house on Long Island & were thinking it might be lady # 3


Short version:

Lady #3 turned out to be the fiancee, and she had a false identity too.

So: Dead guy spied on chem firm for recycle method. Boss found out and hired fiancee to get him off his track with false info. Dead guy found out that chem firm was lying and polluting. Fiancee had found pictures (proof of pollution) when visiting wife, Castle found them shredded. But fiancee had alibi. Boss had not, and they found gun in trash by his house.

Turns out dead guy was "old fashioned" and didn't sleep with fiancee, staying true to wife and trying to save environment – wife comforted in her grief.

Alexis found owner of picture book, Beckett said: "I'm very impressed you closed this case." (with Caslte as witness). Castle very proud. 

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