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ep 12 - Post Episode Discussion
January 12, 2010
10:17 pm
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Just had a crazy thought. If Castle and Beckett were to get married, it would be Castle's third marriage and Beckett's seventh time being a part of a wedding (Kyra's doesn't count because she wasn't a bridesmaid). If this were to happen, I'm willing to be there's going to be a comment about the third time being the charm and seven being a lucky number. It's just too good a line to pass up.

January 13, 2010
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Annnnnd this episode just pushed these two into "time to get things going" mode for me. I am ready for the dance to pick up the pace. Lanie can see it. Kyra can see it. We know Ryan and Esposito have been suspecting for a while now. Time for Castle and Beckett to finally get the picture. Let's have some C/B romance already!!

January 13, 2010
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Anyone else notice the Kate is wearing a WHITE top that is the same cut and style as her RED top she wore previously ??

That shudder :rofl: I "beat him to it" after the mother in law snipe, brrrrrrrrr

Cheers TBBW

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January 13, 2010
1:19 am
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I wish we'd gotten to see more of Rick taped to that chair! 

I mean, you know, just 'cause I can't quite figure how he got a hold of that can lid to cut himself free . . . Laugh

January 13, 2010
1:23 am
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Re:

Anyone else notice the Kate is wearing a WHITE top that is the same cut and style as her RED top she wore previously ??

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She has that shirt in like 12 colors.

Becklers do it with the beckle on. http://www.swagbucks.com/refer.....rahdarling
January 13, 2010
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Some people might say that they can't get romantic yet, because it will kill the premise (he follows her because of "Nikki Heat" and he won't need to if they are dating or married), but I think that the premise can change in a logical way if they get romantically involved.

I look to Arthur Conan Doyle for this–Sherlock Holmes was NOT a member of Scotland Yard, and yet he worked very closely with them.  He was a consultant for them.  If Beckett and Castle get together, he can keep his "consultant" status(in a Sherlock Holmes kind of way) and the UST can remain because they have to be "professional" when they are on the job.

In fact, it can be WAYYY more UST, since I could totally see them trying to work each other up while they are on a case….Bounce2

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January 13, 2010
1:53 am
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RE: She has that shirt in like 12 colors.

DOH

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January 13, 2010
3:03 am
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Terri said in chat that that top isn't available anywhere because they bought out the entire stock for Beckett!

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January 13, 2010
6:38 am
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Well what a wonderful episode!!! so much insight into our beloved characters!!! Here are a few thoughts in no particular order – sorry!

Before I do though- What's happening with the forum? I'd love to insert some pictures but I am not getting any kind of tool bar or option to do it.. help???!!!

I was not looking forward to the idea of jealous Beckett.. I was afraid the writer's were going to suddenly turn Beckett into a snappy possessive jealous person – and they didn't( thank you!! and sorry I doubted!!) Beckett was as classy as ever and carried herself with the self-respect I hoped she would… so I am thrilled.. she was jealous, she was afraid and sad too… but she let it play out between Castle and Kyra- I mean she didn't even get that mad with him when she discovered he had seen Kyra when she had asked him not to- I think Beckett was kind to Castle then,gracious.. I thought it was wonderful! She also let it play out when she allowed Castle to play Kyra the tape of her fiance doing her proud- and she let them do it alone.. all the while, keeping her distance and giving them space to do whatever they wanted to do – but all the while, she couldn't help herself and had to watch!! hehehee… Yes it was fantastic that the file was upside down.. that was very funny! I wonder if that was an ad-lib or not..

I loved that Beckett was telling Castle he was too close and he accuses her of thinking he is too close to her(Kyra) – and she freely admits that is what she thinks ( I think he was thinking she would try and deny it) .. but I loved how she proved that he was.. not because he was all gooo goo eyes at Kyra.. but because he wasn't even considering her a suspect – he wasn't being himself and running down all the options.. way to go Beckett.. and she did it calmly and without anger.. I wanted to cheer 'go Beckett'!! She did us women proud!! While I am cheering for Beckett, I love that she wasn't distracted by Castle and his feelings for Kyra- she kept on the case, and did what needed to be done – she caught the murderer smile' class='wp-smiley' /> she wasn't busy feeling sorry for herself, she got busy checking all suspects! Oh and notice that when she is telling Castle that is not what he would say she says ' that is not what Richard Castle would say' – she uses his first name…. hmm interesting! when she spins her tale of what Richard Castle would usually be saying about now – it's like she is telling him – your better than this!! this isn't you!!! Awh…. love2:

The main themes of this episode? well… this episode was all about revealing Castle's character – it was an opportunity for Kate to see the man beneath all the image and jokes. ( love the elevator scene – I didn't know you did real!!love2smile For me, it was the episode where Kate really started to see just who Castle is and that she has real feelings for him!! Up until now, he has been all jokes and flirting and stories and she hasn't really taken him seriously, although no doubt she has always been attracted to him- she figured he didn't have much substance when it came to women…. but now she has evidence that he can choose real!

For Castle, this episode was about growing up…. and letting go. It was wonderful to see him truly, genuinely happy at the end of the wedding.. awh!! Castle had probably been viewing his relationship with Kyra through rose coloured glasses all those years ( rose.. get it??!!) and it was good for it all to be put to rest- and very telling.. Kyra told Castle she wanted space- so he gave her space – loved her response- that she wasn't wanting space ' forever!' Castle didn't chase her, he didn't go after her.. and so because of that – he lost her!! well.. if that isn't a lesson for Castle then I don't know what is!! This could play out in his relationship with Beckett if he hasn't learned this lesson properly!!!

Castle seemed to get lost in the serendipity of it all-his running into Kyra.. and with the shock of it all, so did Kyra.. when they did kiss on their 'secret roof' .. I was much relieved when it went to the wide shot!! hehehee.. oh good..I thought.. got through that.. ( as I had been dreading it coming!!! When i watch this episode again I will skip it! ha haaaa..) I was watching thinking Castle and Kyra are a yin and a yin.. a panda's name.. he needs a yin yang!!!

It was great that they didn't demonise Kyra.. she was a lovely girl.. and it was good to see Castle does fall for real, classy women.. I get why he married meredith.. with the baby and all.. but why did he marry the next nasty one? eww she is soooo ugly.. ( I mean on the inside.. which makes her ugly on the outside too!)

It seems like everyone they know suspects Castle and Beckett are falling for each other – except for Montgomery.. haven't seen any evidence that he thinks it.. but.. it is funny to think in a few episodes time, Castle is linked to Beckett romantically in the press – so it turns out.. all of new york is going to be thinking they are falling for each other!! ha haaa!! I can't wait to see his mother's and daughter's reaction to that.. we hardly saw them this episode.. I love Castle's interactions with them.. shame! Love Alexis stealing his money.. you know, it reminded me of the full moon episode when all the fights are breaking out and Beckett barely registers it- I think Beckett would fit right into their family…

Interesting that Kyra commented on how Beckett calls him Castle.. – we have noticed that too!! hehehee..

Interesting how the day after Castle kisses Kyra on the roof – he shows up with two bought coffees for himself and Beckett – peace offering?? feeling guilty??

It's funny how Beckett sits there with her chair too high just so she can show Castle what he has done. this is brilliant how she does this to him – totally on purpose.. talking about the chair but making it sound like she was talking about the rooftop kiss.. go Beckett!! He is feeling so guilty… I love how she gives him the chance to tell her.. she lets him consider telling her or not.. his angst is very sweet..and her quiet smile is telling isn't it.. Castle passed that test- thank goodness!!

Oh and there goes Castle's ego- he thought she put surveillance on him! ha haaaa.. I love the look on her face when she is showing him the photos silently- and very loudly wink' class='wp-smiley' /> – like whooooo man you had fun last night!! whoo hooo!!! heheheee.. you are sooo busted!! smile' class='wp-smiley' /> but.. she isn't angry.. she seems amused by it smile' class='wp-smiley' />

Oh looky.. it seems Esposito's wardrobe budget has been increased!! smile' class='wp-smiley' /> fine threads.. whoa.. and Ryan in a leather jacket? has he been wearing one all this time and I didn't notice?crazy2:

Awh.. when Castle rejoins Beckett at her desk with a coffee to hear about how Sophie has been paying cash for lots of things – we see he has gotten her a cup of coffee too.. awh…love2:

the snippet about next week's episode looks interesting!! although I do think they have taken some things out of context – based on what we already know about the episode.. Infact the promo for this episode made Beckett seem much more angry with Castle warning him off Kyra than she actually was!

Oh and lastly.. Castle's reaction to Beckett catching the bouquet: Priceless!!!! smile' class='wp-smiley' /> wish I could post a pic of it.. but for the life of me, I can't see how to!!!

Castle: This is it! Don't be nervous!
 http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh313/iwsod/CASTLE/Itstimehonoured-1-1.jpg
Alexis: Dad! Noooooo no severed heads!
Castle: that's... I.. It's time honoured!
 
 
January 13, 2010
9:18 am
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Castle said:Terri said in chat that that top isn't available anywhere because they bought out the entire stock for Beckett!


Bounce So true. At least she doesn't have to stand in front of the wardrobe wondering what to wear, just what color am I today?

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January 13, 2010
6:45 pm
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Wow Doz

What an insightful post, after watching the episode for the third time last night, i have to agree with your comments.

The thing that impressed me the most was that Kyra had such a different persona than Pheebs out of "charmed" that i couldn't equate her to what i was used to seeing, course there was a few years difference ,but she has not changed a lot in the looks and figure department, and she was my favorite charmed one crazy:

Long may Castle reign over TV land

Cheers TBBW

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January 13, 2010
9:34 pm
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Did anyone catch a quote from this episode that was in a previous episode?

From "little girl lost" when Beckett is telling Castle when she met Sorenson:

[Castle and Beckett in elevator at the police station]
Beckett: Six months.
Castle: Six months what?
Beckett: [about FBI agent Will Sorenson] We dated for six months.
Castle: I didn't ask.
Beckett: Yeah, I know. You were not asking very loudly.
Castle: I know. I'm like a Jedi like that.

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From last night's episode (in the elevator after the banquet room scene with Alyssa):

Castle: We met at college. We were together for nearly three years.
Beckett: I didn't ask.
Castle: Yes you were not asking very loudly.

Same quote in both episodes in bold are the exact same! What a coincidence. smile

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January 13, 2010
9:56 pm
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I noticed the "you were not asking very loudly" right away! It definitely forced a huge smile on my face smile

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January 13, 2010
10:53 pm
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i noticed right away too. i love the repeated lines. grin

January 14, 2010
12:26 am
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Greenyjess: Let's not forget about Martha. And as smart as Alexis is, I don't think it's possible that she doesn't. But she's the only one that hasn't commented on it yet outside of the captain.

Doz: Great points. I agree with pretty much everything you said. However, Castle brings Beckett her coffee every now and then (like a few episodes ago when he spilled her's on her by accident). But it was interesting that he brought coffee in instead of using the machine…

And I agree, I wanted more Martha and Alexis this episode. Glad that we got a lot more Lanie though.

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