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4:10 pm
January 7, 2010


MereBelle007

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it's true…kate would never let someone die over information.

4:20 pm
January 7, 2010


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Oh and in the photos, it looks like her hair is pulled back.

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4:27 pm
January 7, 2010


sarah_darling

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I saw that too! It also looks like we'll only see her Dad at a diner, meaning no Castle interaction. Unless Jim Beckett is in another scene.

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4:37 pm
January 7, 2010


PamFromCalif

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To Doz- Yes to me it looks like a long hallway maybe where they go to question suspects or as you say the holding tank. Odd thing is don't they usually check someone they bring in for questioning to make sure they don't have any weapons on them or not anyone know?

It goes without saying but I will say it anyways since others have posted here that Beckett wouldn't let anyone die to find out information on her Mother's murder. Of course she wouldn't it's her job as a cop to put her life on the line every day out there and to save the lives of others. Having said this Castle in her mind is now becoming a partner in the job place he isn't a complete stranger she is trying to save, she has feelings for him thus it is going to effect her more then saving the life of a perfect stranger losing him would cause her pain more so then losing someone she didn't care for even though every human life matters. I believe she is falling for Castle or already has secretly so it is going to effect her she would take this into her mind set looking down the gun of a bad guy when he holds it on her and Castle, she cares for Castle. On a side note sure if the guy dies there goes what he knows about her Mom' murder it will sting if she didn't get anything from him before he died when they questioned him.
Castle might get something and that is why the guy takes him hostage or both of them but in the description it says Castle is taken hostage not Beckett. I think Beckett is trying to talk the guy out of it and then has to shoot him to save Castle and anyone else in that hallway.

5:12 pm
January 7, 2010


MereBelle007

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i noticed the hair too, imw. it's different…i like it.

5:27 pm
January 7, 2010


PamFromCalif

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To Merebelleoo7
I love when she changes her hair styles it shows Beckett is thinking of herself as a woman and not just a tough cop on the beat. She is evolving with her leather jackets and her hair lol! Notice in photo of her holding that spider #14 when she goes out on that date (not with Castle man) but with whoever she goes out with her hair is curly and her dress pretty showy with bare shoulder our Kate is stepping out in style. I am assuming she was wearing that red dress for Castle and for date scene and not filming something else.

5:56 pm
January 7, 2010


Doz

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Hello.. thanks for giving your opinion about the hair.. it was hard to see in the small pics.. I just hope they keep her makeup the same, it has been looking gorg the beginning of season 2!

A few of you guys have responded that Beckett would never let someone die to solve her mother's murder. … and I wholeheartedly agree with you all.. Just to clarify, I wasn't saying she would..

I was saying in that situation that it is a choice- but yes, Beckett would always choose life- I liked the way you put it Sarah,choosing life over death..

I think that there could be people who are so obsessed at solving the murder of a loved one that they could be at risk of stepping over that line-(and at risk of it consuming their own life) … Maybe not letting someone die -but maybe risking it..certainly taking bigger risks.. I don't think Beckett is in this place though- which is why I said she was choosing not to take the risk of anything happening to Castle. Let's not forget, I also was only guessing at what would happen.. we don't even know for sure who shoots the guy-maybe not Beckett, we don't know yet… I was just exploring different ideas.

Yes, we may never ever imagine Beckett doing anything else but choosing life.. so it may not seem like a choice.. but she always has a choice.. which I believe makes her a very courageous character.. we can say she will always choose to help others- and yes she probably will..but it is a choice – I just wanted to credit her character with what it was she was indeed choosing..

From a dramatic writing point of view -With all she has been through, I would give her that split second of doubt about what to do.. Not even Beckett is perfect- and it makes for a better story.. If Beckett was always perfect and never changes and grows then the story isn't as powerful.. know what I mean?

From Castle's hand on Beckett's back comforting her as she looks at Coonan's dead body – it is clear ( at least to me!!) that Castle understands what she has chosen, and what she has lost in making that choice.. oh swoon..

Yeah pamfromcalif.. Castle is different now isn't he.. it will affect her emotionally more than if it were just anyone.. just like her mother's murder affects her more than other murders. It is only natural and right.. so if the writer's don't write it that way and brush it off – that it is Castle and that makes her emotional- well.. I am going to be disappointed!! but.. I think the writers have done a great job so far and I will be looking forward to seeing what they have done :)

I just love being able to thrash around ideas with others! Not long now till Jan 11!!Wave

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6:25 pm
January 7, 2010


MereBelle007

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the episode descriptions says that he was taken hostage by someone linked to her mother's murder, so even though we know that kate would never choose death over life, there has to be something that happens between kate and castle that causes them to both jump right in to dating other people. it only makes sense to me that there is a catalyst that has them both rushing out to date others, because up until this point they haven't exactly been with anyone else. there have been random people (meredith, will, kyra) but none that have been an actual date.

7:00 pm
January 7, 2010


musiclover

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I can't wait for this episode I'm intrested in Becketts dad being around and castle getting taken hostage.

7:06 pm
January 7, 2010


unniw

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Kate said she was going on a date at the end of episode 9, but we don't know if that was an actual date…

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7:11 pm
January 7, 2010


hdotmoss

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posts 192

MereBelle007 said:

the episode descriptions says that he was taken hostage by someone linked to her mother's murder, so even though we know that kate would never choose death over life, there has to be something that happens between kate and castle that causes them to both jump right in to dating other people. it only makes sense to me that there is a catalyst that has them both rushing out to date others, because up until this point they haven't exactly been with anyone else. there have been random people (meredith, will, kyra) but none that have been an actual date.


That's exactly what i was thinking..

8:37 pm
January 7, 2010


Becki

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posts 71

Awesome Spoilerific pictures at http://www.tv.com/castle/show/…..ts;title;1

8:42 pm
January 7, 2010


PamFromCalif

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posts 213

To Becki – These are the photos well some of them we have been discussing here except they only posted big ones of Beckett with her Dad. The good ones so far are thumbnail size and hard to see.

8:51 pm
January 7, 2010


Becki

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posts 71

Sorry, Its hard to tell when a discussion has over 100 posts.

9:00 pm
January 7, 2010


PamFromCalif

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posts 213

Doz wrote -Hello.. thanks for giving your opinion about the hair.. it was hard to see in the small pics.. I just hope they keep her makeup the same, it has been looking gorg the beginning of season 2!

A few of you guys have responded that Beckett would never let someone die to solve her mother's murder. … and I wholeheartedly agree with you all.. Just to clarify, I wasn't saying she would..

I was saying in that situation that it is a choice- but yes, Beckett would always choose life- I liked the way you put it Sarah,choosing life over death..

I think that there could be people who are so obsessed at solving the murder of a loved one that they could be at risk of stepping over that line-(and at risk of it consuming their own life) … Maybe not letting someone die -but maybe risking it..certainly taking bigger risks.. I don't think Beckett is in this place though- which is why I said she was choosing not to take the risk of anything happening to Castle. Let's not forget, I also was only guessing at what would happen.. we don't even know for sure who shoots the guy-maybe not Beckett, we don't know yet… I was just exploring different ideas.

Yes, we may never ever imagine Beckett doing anything else but choosing life.. so it may not seem like a choice.. but she always has a choice.. which I believe makes her a very courageous character.. we can say she will always choose to help others- and yes she probably will..but it is a choice – I just wanted to credit her character with what it was she was indeed choosing..

From a dramatic writing point of view -With all she has been through, I would give her that split second of doubt about what to do.. Not even Beckett is perfect- and it makes for a better story.. If Beckett was always perfect and never changes and grows then the story isn't as powerful.. know what I mean?

From Castle's hand on Beckett's back comforting her as she looks at Coonan's dead body – it is clear ( at least to me!!) that Castle understands what she has chosen, and what she has lost in making that choice.. oh swoon..

Yeah pamfromcalif.. Castle is different now isn't he.. it will affect her emotionally more than if it were just anyone.. just like her mother's murder affects her more than other murders. It is only natural and right.. so if the writer's don't write it that way and brush it off – that it is Castle and that makes her emotional- well.. I am going to be disappointed!! but.. I think the writers have done a great job so far and I will be looking forward to seeing what they have done :)

I just love being able to thrash around ideas with others! Not long now till Jan 11!

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I also think that Castle and Beckett may hug in this episode I don't know about a kiss but could maybe happen. In the moment scared spontaneous and without really thinking just so glad that the other one is "safe". Maybe we get more then a hand on a shoulder we will have to wait and see.

I so agree with you in what someone must do in a beat of time in a moment when dealing in a crisis, maybe the guy was aiming at more people we don't know yet. Beckett may have had to choose between keeping Castle alive and trying to wound the guy holding him, but ends up maybe having to kill the man because he is still going to shoot Castle. Also when Beckett looks like she is setting her own gun down we don't know if this is the moment she chooses to take her best shot so to speak. Maybe in all this Castle and Beckett get so shook up about the other that they are faced with just what they really have become to each other and do mean to each other and it freaks them both out. Castle likes being a flirt and a playboy not yet grown up. Beckett is closed off and guarded to let a man like Castle into her life her personal life comes with lots of baggage and loads of effort to take on all of his "women" and his lifestyle. Might scare them both enough that they rush back to their own corners and go into denial until of course #14 and their dates and when they end up at the same place with their selected dates and the sparks and daggers most surely will fly. I can't wait but I will have to.

It will also be interesting to know if Castle's family are in this episode to find out he has been taken hostage or if it all happens away from them and Beckett's Dad and is wrapped up at the police station and we never see those reactions on the episode. Also will be interesting if Lanie is in this episode to talk with Beckett as well as our sidekick cops watching this whole thing unfold in front of them and their reactions to Castle & Beckett they have been watching these two the closest out of all as they work with them day to day.

Love the pix of Beckett driving alone I wonder where is she going and who is she looking for? I hope it has to do with her and Castle maybe her driving home after the hostage thing wondering about her feelings for Castle or will she tell him at the end of #13 see, it's to dangerous for you to follow me around on my job we need some time apart or maybe the Nikki Heat books will have to be done without more research and they part for a few weeks thus the dates. Like Castle said they have tried it apart already and he ended up wheeling and dealing his way back in to work with her and there would be no show if he doesn't stay working with her, but maybe Capt. assigns Castle to the guys for a few weeks to give Beckett time to clear her head from the entire hostage thing. I am grasping here but like you said it is fun to write our own scripts some folks call it fanfic LOL! Makes the time go by and then it is fun to see how much we guessed correctly and how far off we were and actually how simple it turns out with a lot less drama then we give it.

Someone here mentioned Beckett's make up for this season, I was thinking on an episode the other night while watching that she seems to be using a lot of dark eye makeup more then usual anyone else think this see it too?

9:05 pm
January 7, 2010


PamFromCalif

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posts 213

Hi Becki,

Nothing to be sorry about you posted the photos bigger thank you. I was replying that these are the pix we have been discussing and join us please.

I didn't mean to sound as if I was critical not in any way I was saying I wish they would have posted all the ones that are in thumbnail- meaning the gun ones where he is hostage lol!

Looking at photos again there is one of the shooting looks like Beckett is actually sitting in front of Castle between his legs and has shot the guy you can see the wound and she is upset and wiping her hair out of her face.

Here is a link to some more large pix of this episode just posted

http://www.tvovermind.com/ngga…..e/3755#ngg

10:55 pm
January 7, 2010


welcome_ to_ my _world

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posts 83

ist it just me or does stana looks like shes cryng in the pic were thyre at the precint and a guy is on the floor shot..and castle is i guess tryng to comfort her

11:21 pm
January 7, 2010


PamFromCalif

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posts 213

To welcome_ to_ my _world
I saw that too but didn't you look at it a few times and think not Beckett?? But it looks like it doesn't it?
Maybe her first time she had to kill someone and then with Castle being taken hostage she is just overwhelmed with it all plus her Mom's murder link. Notice all the men just stand there but Castle is the only one to approach her? Very telling how far they have come but not!

5:56 am
January 8, 2010


Theresa

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posts 997

seeing the pics large got me forgetting about episode 12 and gushing over episode 13 :D really looking forward to that seen where beckett shoots someone to save castle, it'll surely be a great emotional scene for beckett.

and it's nice to see more of beckett's personal life, also really looking forward to her talk with her dad.
oh and one more, her facial expression in that picture where she was sitting in the car was very emotional, stana's superb. :)

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8:23 am
January 8, 2010


unniw

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Based on jacket and hairstyle, I'm thinking she's sitting in the car before meeting her dad, contemplating what she'll tell him about the new findings on her mom's case… she probably hasn't even told him about what Castle found end of last season.

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9:08 pm
January 9, 2010


PamFromCalif

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posts 213

There is a spoiler photo from this episode I find most interesting it shows Castle & Beckett drinking coffee at the police station I am not sure of what part of the station. Beckett is looking serious or upset/mad at Castle who is standing at the left of her about four feet apart and he is looking very serious not happy at all. They are either discussing something very serious or they are both mad at each other. Give it a look see at http://www.tv.com/castle/show/…..ts;title;1. Beckett is wearing what looks to be a black lather coat I only see with 50 percent one eye so sometimes colors I am not sure about.

It is a most telling photo of these two I can speculate and say they could be talking about her Mother's case hope so! Whatever it is Beckett isn't happy with Castle.

10:02 pm
January 9, 2010


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They look very serious, but I am not getting Beckett is upset with Castle.  My take is he's about to comment on a very serious subject. 

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10:34 pm
January 9, 2010


Seriously?

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I'm not seeing a photo in the link, it just goes to the home page for me?

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11:06 pm
January 9, 2010


musiclover

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itsmyworld said:

I'm not seeing a photo in the link, it just goes to the home page for me?

yeah at tv.com it's just giving me the castle page can't find the pics.

11:19 pm
January 9, 2010


sarah_darling

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posts 1626

Same goes for me.

Becklers do it with the beckle on.

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