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1:03 pm
March 9, 2010


dmcw

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unniw said:

Did you notice….? After the questioning of Lady Irina at the precinct, when Castle was rather flustered, when Beckett and Castle left the room, Castle tried to close the door, but kept missing the handle… Laugh he gave it up in the end.

 


 That scene was hilarious!  Beckett didn't seem at all bothered that Castle was so flustered by that woman throughout the episode.

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1:18 pm
March 9, 2010


wynnara

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This episode largely fell flat for me… part of that was my own fault for spoiling myself with the promo… in my defense it was a month between episodes and I was just dying there. My resolve to avoid the promo for next week lasted all of five minutes after reading all the "squeeing" going on here.

I agree with those that said the case was a bit of a stretch. I mean, they have made it a plot point in the past that some 100lb weakling couldn't perform the murder, so to disregard that here made me wonder a bit. On the other hand, it really would've been cliché to have the bondage episode have a bondage murder. And I like the cases when they're smart because I like watching Castle and Beckett at the top of their game. Having a weak case just weakens them as characters for me.

What I did like was Castle trying to provoke Beckett with all the "so you like the bondage stuff, huh?"… likely expecting her to either blush or get all self-righteous on him… the expression on his face when she so abruptly turned the tables on him was priceless. The rest of it just felt more super-cheese than hot.

 

Next episode however looks like something worth sinking one's teeth into.

 

2:10 pm
March 9, 2010


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The one aspect of this show that I'm just not all that in to is Alexis. I know this is a comment that is going to get me thrown off the island, but I just haven't warmed to this character. It is funny because I do have ideas about how I'd like to see the relationship evolve between she, her father & Kate but if the character was written out for college or something, I'd really have no problem with it.

Actually, I think that Castle's relationship with his daughter is one of the reasons that endears Castle to Beckkett. If you look at her facial expression when she sees Castle with Alexis, there's so much love in her eyes for CAstle.

I love Alexis because she grounds Castle. He is the real Richard Castle when he's with his daughter. And there's nothing more sexy than that.

I love Alexis issues because I could totally see a role reversal with Kate and Castle, as parents. Castle, being the overprotective father and Kate, the encouraging mother. You guys ever noticed that when Castle is having Alexis issues and then he talks to Kate, and Kate makes him see the other side becasue she was once a teenage girl and backs off and listens to her.

I don't think they realize it but they really do seem like a married couple with a teenage daughter.

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2:10 pm
March 9, 2010


mfridley

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I thought the episode was worth applauding…there were some great moments! I especially liked the whole "imaginary boyfriend" banter. If anything, it shows just how interested Castle is in Beckett's dating life. I did think it was interesting how Beckett didn't really respond to any of Castle's comments about it…or deny it. hah. Laugh

Question…Did I totally miss the scene in the promo where Castle tells Beckett is saw her wearing that exact oufit in his fantasies?? I was sooo looking forward to seeing Beckett's reaction to that. Sad

 

But overall….that promo for 2x17! GAH!!!! I can hardly wait! I hope it doesn't spoil too much for me though.

2:18 pm
March 9, 2010


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mfridley said:

I thought the episode was worth applauding…there were some great moments! I especially liked the whole "imaginary boyfriend" banter. If anything, it shows just how interested Castle is in Beckett's dating life. I did think it was interesting how Beckett didn't really respond to any of Castle's comments about it…or deny it. hah. /wp-content/forum-smileys/sf-laugh.gif
Question…Did I totally miss the scene in the promo where Castle tells Beckett is saw her wearing that exact oufit in his fantasies?? I was sooo looking forward to seeing Beckett's reaction to that. /wp-content/forum-smileys/smiley-sad.gif
 
But overall….that promo for 2x17! GAH!!!! I can hardly wait! I hope it doesn't spoil too much for me though.

I think they deleted the scene.

I totally think that Beckett was playing around about this "imaginary boyfriend." Afterall, we do know that this love interest of her is a homicide detective, so why wouldn't she bring him to the precinct. And then in the upcoming episode, she stays with CAstle. Hmmmm.

I do think that this love interest of Beckett will come around the same time that Kelly Carlson will be guest star. It fits the timeline. It will be in episdoe 20. So maybe, we will hear an announcement soon who this actor will be. You never know, he might be the guy who helps them solve the case and he will ask Beckett out. Beckett sees that Castle's attention is on the actress and proves that she's right about his type: actress/model/publicist. (hehehe) So she agrees to go out on a date with this homicide cop.

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2:20 pm
March 9, 2010


dmcw

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mfridley said:

Question…Did I totally miss the scene in the promo where Castle tells Beckett is saw her wearing that exact oufit in his fantasies?? I was sooo looking forward to seeing Beckett's reaction to that. Sad

 

 


 Now that you metion it, I didn't see that in there either.  Must have gotten cut?

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2:25 pm
March 9, 2010


PeTJa

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mfridley said:

Question…Did I totally miss the scene in the promo where Castle tells Beckett is saw her wearing that exact oufit in his fantasies?? I was sooo looking forward to seeing Beckett's reaction to that. /wp-content/forum-smileys/smiley-sad.gif

Yeah, the final cut seems to be a bit different from the first one; next to the thing you've mentioned, there is also an extended part of the crime scene at the beginning – we didn't get to see that in sneak peeks.

OK Castle, but it's accompany and observe, and not participate and annoy, got it?

2:27 pm
March 9, 2010


KalliopePL

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dmcw said:

mfridley said:

Question…Did I totally miss the scene in the promo where Castle tells Beckett is saw her wearing that exact oufit in his fantasies?? I was sooo looking forward to seeing Beckett's reaction to that. Sad

 

 


Now that you metion it, I didn't see that in there either.  Must have gotten cut?
 


 

Let's hope it's gonna be back on the DVD!

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2:40 pm
March 9, 2010


Kitten

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itsmyworld said:

The one aspect of this show that I'm just not all that in to is Alexis. I know this is a comment that is going to get me thrown off the island, but I just haven't warmed to this character. It is funny because I do have ideas about how I'd like to see the relationship evolve between she, her father & Kate but if the character was written out for college or something, I'd really have no problem with it.


 

Well, we can get thrown off the island together then because I agree with you.  It's not that I dislike the fact that Castle has a daughter, I do like that aspect of him, and I like that Kate finds that to be an attractive quality that kind of grounds Castle and shows her that he can be a mature, repsonsible adult when it matters.   What I'm honestly not that fond of is that Alexis is just too mature for her age and too helpful and a little too good, I just don't buy her as a high school kid, even one that had to grow up faster because of her wild parents.  That character really lost me with her teary "confession" that she had jumped a turnstile on the subway.   I don't know, I really want to like her, but those are the parts of the show that just don't grab me when she's being a bit of a know it all, I'd like to see her be more of a kid for a while.

3:03 pm
March 9, 2010


Moby Dick

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I like Alexis. I like her because she is smart,well mannered,grounded and focused. She shows signs of being a stunner in a couple of years. I think we will see her doing a lot in her time in front of the camera. I like her for the Castle series because she grounds Castle and provides Beckett at a chance to see him in a family setting. I thought she did a great job in this episode and was glad she got the scenes.If Castle has to have a child (teen child at that and female on top of that) i'm really glad it's someone like Alexis. It could be so much worse and you all know what I mean.

Her interview,posted here somewhere on the boards, was excellent I thought. She is an interesting person and seemingly dedicated to the craft. She gets along great with the other cast members and they all like her.

Plus she is from Texarkana,Texas which is within 150 miles of my house so she is a home girl.Smile

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3:17 pm
March 9, 2010


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My previous post has nothing to do with Molly as a person. Molly herself seems quite lovely. My post on the matter has nothing to do with the actress in any way, just the character as she stands.

I don't want her to be some ghastly brat out of Gossip Girl or anything like that. I like the fact that she is a fairly normal teenager on the show. I think my main problem is that she's really too good to be true. I was a good kid in high school myself so it isn't even that I find most of it unbelieveable, but I mean, freaking out because you didn't swipe your metro pass on the subway? Really? Just a little too perfect. I would relate to that if she were 9. 16? Not quite so much.

Actually, I really would like to see the dynamic of Beckett being in their lives as more than just her father's friend because I think that could actually bring a more "real" dynamic to Alexis' character in terms of having to cope with her father being serious about someone who she likes, but yet she will also be sharing her dad in a way she likely hasn't before given what we know about Castle's previous relationships. I certainly don't want her character to become the next Paris Hilton by any stretch, but as the character stands, I just don't really connect to her on any level. 

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3:27 pm
March 9, 2010


Kitten

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The episode is up on abc.com with text commentary by Kate Sargeant,
can't wait to watch this one again. Bounce2

3:32 pm
March 9, 2010


Moby Dick

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I know exactly what you mean about the subway scene and feel just like you do about it. She didn't write that stinker,she just had to act it.It came off a little over dramatic for my taste too. I was not a good kid in high school and can appreciate seeing her as one. I never thoought you were being personal in your assessment of the character. She will hopefully get more meat in future rolls and we can all be proud she is part of the show. Part of my reason for liking her is she reminds me of my own daughter at that age.  So many shows have bratty teens who lie,cheat,steal and get involved in all sorts of things it is a relief to have good ole stable Alexis. *sigh* In my career i've had to work with the "hedge fund home boys" type too often I guess.

 

 

Oh!, btw: IMW, I just love your avatar. Classy and sexy as hell.  What does the writing say? Talk about a picture saying a thousand words.

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3:38 pm
March 9, 2010


castlelover1018

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it's really randomw but…is it me, or did the rating change from TVPG to TV14?! i saw that and i was wondering..on iTunes adn they say its TV14 now castle is TV14?!?! hmmmmm i think it just might be this one episode for all the sexual references but yea…oo and tick tick tick is on sunday, right? but this episode was SOOO funny!!! great lines, and interesting murder….

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3:43 pm
March 9, 2010


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The writing says Christian Louboutin Paris. It is the brand of the shoe. It is just standing on the shoe box. : )

I never notice the ratings so I can't comment on that.

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3:47 pm
March 9, 2010


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And i just saw the episode schedule…WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO WEEKS FOR TICK, TICK, TICK AND ANOTHER WEEK FOR BOOM! *DIES* HAAHAHAHA UGHH THIS WILL BE A LOONNNGGGG WAIITTTTT

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4:06 pm
March 9, 2010


unniw

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I like Alexis too. I'm a high-school teacher – 16-year-olds DO know it all Tongue. And we have plenty of serious ambitious girls. About the teary-eyed confession - I think the tears was because she lied / didn't tell Castle about the ticket when he asked, not the ticket itself: "But the point is I didn't tell you even after you were so sweet…", "But I lied to you, shouldn't you punish me?" 

Also liked her story in this episode – that she's open to test out different things. Like all the other characters here she has several layers for us to discover.

 

"You and I both know…" – Beckett and Lady Irina seemed to be evenly matched. Both at the house of pain, and at the precinct. Beckett smiling when Lady Irina's clamming up - she expected nothing less. Beckett wearing black leather jackets and black gloves in this episode is no coincidence, of course.

 

 

  who's this?

that face?!?!

seriously!

I can't recognize that face!

ROFL 

 

 

saliva on the pillow – maybe it's the pattern that show the difference between drooling at night and being suffocated while screaming??

 

Jenny – charmed all three in just three sentences – she seems nice, I'm happy for Ryan, and wish them a long term relationship. (sorry Nerwen!) 

The chat comments mirrored the episode:

[Admin] [luvmydautr] Your wife is going to be guest staring on an episode of Castle, what was it like working with her?
[Terri Miller] Seamus _ It’s wonderful. We’ve worked together before.
[Terri Miller] She’s visited the set so many times, it was nice to have her be part of the scene.
[Terri Miller] Jon says she’s been to set so many time we HAD to put her in the scene.
[Terri Miller] Seamus – Jon and Nathan hit on her all the time.
[Terri Miller] Jon – Is hugging her a lot technically hitting on her?

Bounce

 

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4:56 pm
March 9, 2010


Skaene

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Marbs84 said:

Did anyone else notice Kate's lack of eye contact when she used the vice raid as an excuse to her knowledge on the subject? She stared at the table the whole time.

Hmmm. I don't think that was a raid. They were there to just interview Mistress Venom and the only way for them to get is to role play. If I were her, I would also be staring at the stuff on the table out of curiosity as to why people do these things. When Kate has her game face on, not hardly anything distracts her.

Regarding Jenny, I wonder if what she said to Kate "You looks so much prettier than your picture in Cosmo," is something that Stana hears from Fans often who have seen her and says that she is more stunning in person than on tv or pictures. It reminds me of one reporter who interviewed her during the first season and she said that the show is making an effort to make Kate Beckett more ordinary looking cuz she's a cop but she (Stana) is truly not ordinary looking. And she blushed at that comment. Kinda like what Kate did.


 

I wasnt talking about the interview with Mistress Venom or Irina. I was talking about back at the precinct when Beckett and Castle were discussing Dungeon Alley.

4:56 pm
March 9, 2010


lmr32385

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Loved everything about this episode. So many great moments!!! Ryan's girlfriend, Jenny, is so cute. They look like such a nice couple. (Of course they would since they are married in real life.) I hope the relationship lasts for him.

The banter between Castle and Beckett was awesome and priceless! Also, the scene with Esposito and Ryan at the dominatrix place was GREAT! Couldn't stop laughing at the fact that Esposito couldn't get the boot off.  Laugh 

 

Promo for the two-parter looks great! Can't wait for those episodes!!! I think I'm going to go crazy waiting.  Crazy

Well, it seems to me that the best relationships–the ones that last–are frequently the ones that are rooted in friendship. You know, one day you look at the person and you see something more than you did the night before. Like a switch has been flicked somewhere. And the person who was just a friend is…suddenly the only person you can ever imagine yourself with. ~Dana Scully 

 

Whoever hired you, he can't hide from me. ~Beckett

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5:00 pm
March 9, 2010


Skaene

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Marbs84 said:

The one aspect of this show that I'm just not all that in to is Alexis. I know this is a comment that is going to get me thrown off the island, but I just haven't warmed to this character. It is funny because I do have ideas about how I'd like to see the relationship evolve between she, her father & Kate but if the character was written out for college or something, I'd really have no problem with it.

Actually, I think that Castle's relationship with his daughter is one of the reasons that endears Castle to Beckkett. If you look at her facial expression when she sees Castle with Alexis, there's so much love in her eyes for CAstle.

I love Alexis because she grounds Castle. He is the real Richard Castle when he's with his daughter. And there's nothing more sexy than that.

I love Alexis issues because I could totally see a role reversal with Kate and Castle, as parents. Castle, being the overprotective father and Kate, the encouraging mother. You guys ever noticed that when Castle is having Alexis issues and then he talks to Kate, and Kate makes him see the other side becasue she was once a teenage girl and backs off and listens to her.

I don't think they realize it but they really do seem like a married couple with a teenage daughter.


 

I'm in agreement in some points on Alexis. I know that she's supposed to be almost the opposite of her father, and often times the 'adult'

of the duo, but a lot of times she comes off as too perfect. She says some random thing or another and BAM! Cool insight, case solved. Don't tell Jose, but I really didnt like that Suicide Squeeze ending.

5:22 pm
March 9, 2010


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Oh, I get that Beckett likes Castle's relationship with Alexis and there is no doubt she centers him… I simply think the character done just a bit differently would make her more enjoyable for me personally. I very much enjoy seeing Kate helping Castle with his "teenage girl issues". Again, I don't need her to be an angsty little monster. I appreciate a mature take on a teenager, but she's just too perfect.

I do have to disagree on the point that there is nothing more sexy than a guy with his kid. That does absolutely nothing for me. But I'm also not baby crazy in any way, shape or form so perhaps that is why I'm just kind of "eh" on the whole thing.

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5:36 pm
March 9, 2010


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itsmyworld said:

 

I hate to say it, but the best part of the whole night was the promo for the next episode. I can't wait. It looks SO good. Given how good Stana was in Sucker Punch, I truly can't wait to see this next episode. It should be epic.


 can someone please point me to somewhere online that may have this promo? i live in canada, and the stupid station here that carried the abc feed cut off the end and i didn't get to see anything Angry

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5:39 pm
March 9, 2010


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thumper said:

itsmyworld said:
[quote]
 
I hate to say it, but the best part of the whole night was the promo for the next episode. I can't wait. It looks SO good. Given how good Stana was in Sucker Punch, I truly can't wait to see this next episode. It should be epic.


 can someone please point me to somewhere online that may have this promo? i live in canada, and the stupid station here that carried the abc feed cut off the end and i didn't get to see anything /wp-content/forum-smileys/msn_angry.gif[/quote]

Go to the Episode 17 thread promo. I believe someone posted the youtube link there.

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5:43 pm
March 9, 2010


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Slomo posted in a thread entitled Ep 2x17 Promo or something like that.

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5:45 pm
March 9, 2010


Kitten

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thumper said:

itsmyworld said:

 

I hate to say it, but the best part of the whole night was the promo for the next episode. I can't wait. It looks SO good. Given how good Stana was in Sucker Punch, I truly can't wait to see this next episode. It should be epic.


can someone please point me to somewhere online that may have this promo? i live in canada, and the stupid station here that carried the abc feed cut off the end and i didn't get to see anything Angry
 


 

 

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