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11:54 am
December 15, 2009


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Monday repeat of Famous Last Words.  Numbers were down this week however the lead ins to Castle were weak and Castle was competing against a new episode of CSI: Miami on CBS.

Time Net Show 18-49 Rating/Share Viewers (Millons)
8:00 CBS How I Met Your Mother 3.9/11 10.22
  NBC The Sing Off (premiere) 2.4/6 7.43
  FOX House (R) 2.1/6 6.70
  ABC Jennifer Hudson: I’ll Be Home For Christmas 1.2/3 5.56
  CW Vampire Diaries (R) 0.7/2 1.62
         
8:30 CBS Accidentally on Purpose 3.3/9 9.33
         
9:00 CBS Two and a Half Men 5.2/13 16.33
  FOX Lie to Me 2.2/6 6.59
  ABC Find My Family 1.4/3 5.44
  NBC The Sing Off (premiere) 2.2/6 6.39
  CW Vampire Diaries (R) 0.6/2 1.418
         
9:30 CBS The Big Bang Theory 5.6/14 15.56
         
10:00 CBS CSI: Miami 4.1/11 14.06
  NBC The Jay Leno Show 1.5/4 4.77
  ABC Castle (R) 1.1/3 4.30
 
Previous Weeks:
9/21 ABC Castle – Deep in Death 2.3/6 9.43
9/28 ABC Castle – The Double Down 2.3/6 9.56
10/5 ABC Castle – Inventing the Girl 3.0/7* 11.46
10/12 ABC Castle – Fool Me Once 2.4/6 9.99
10/19 ABC Castle – When the Bough Breaks 2.4/6 9.88
10/26 ABC Castle – Vampire Weekend 2.8/7 11.09
11/02 ABC Castle – Famous Last Words 2.4/6 9.68
11/09 ABC Castle – Kill The Messenger 2.5/7 10.72
11/16 ABC Castle – Love Me Dead 2.6/7 10.86
11/23 ABC Castle – One Man's Treasure 2.7/7 10.46
11/30 ABC Castle – Deep in Death (repeat) 1.9/5 6.75
12/07 ABC Castle – The Fifth Bullet 2.3/6 8.41
12/12 ABC Castle – Fool Me Once (repeat) 0.9/3 3.70

Data from tvbythenumbers.com

*Inflated figure due to football airing in some states

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12:28 pm
December 15, 2009


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Just a question or two. Which week did Fool Me Once originally air? And did Love Me Dead air on 11/16 ? details, details, details …

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12:39 pm
December 15, 2009


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Sorry, yes, Love Me Dead was the 16th and Fool Me Once was on 10/12 (I had The Double Down listed twice)

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12:54 pm
December 15, 2009


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Kind of odd that ABC didn't repeat the episodes in order.  Plus Famous Last Words episode was the weakest episode from season 2 IMHO. 

1:01 pm
December 15, 2009


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ollin said:Kind of odd that ABC didn't repeat the episodes in order.  Plus Famous Last Words episode was the weakest episode from season 2 IMHO. 

I agree.

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1:21 pm
December 15, 2009


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The repeats are kind of all over the place, seems like the later episodes on Mondays and earlier eps on Saturdays, but in no obvious order – I'm sure there's method to the order as far as ABC is concerned though.

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December 15, 2009


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I think some people didn't like Famous Last Words because it's not very shippy. Too many people are wanting just the Castle/Beckett relationship and hate when we don't get a "cherries" moment or what have you.

I loved the episode! It showed how caring Castle can be and the fact that Beckett likes to see him in that role. Plus, both of them caring about Sky was sweet. And the ending was perfect!

Looking at the numbers, considering how low the lead-in was, and the everything else was new, it's not as bad as it could have been.

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3:50 pm
December 15, 2009


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Famous Last  Words was not my favorite episode, but it was still good. Personally, my least favorite was "To Kill the Messanger" (wasn't that the name?) I felt that Famous Last Words was stronger than that one, though I actually had a different take on why others didn't like it: having Alexis hanging around and being informed about all of this information that should have been classified was kind of a stretch. It didn't bother me, but in reading some other sites/posts about the episode, this seemed to be a bone of contention for a lot of fans.

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December 15, 2009


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itsmyworld said:

Famous Last  Words was not my favorite episode, but it was still good. Personally, my least favorite was "To Kill the Messanger" (wasn't that the name?) I felt that Famous Last Words was stronger than that one, though I actually had a different take on why others didn't like it: having Alexis hanging around and being informed about all of this information that should have been classified was kind of a stretch. It didn't bother me, but in reading some other sites/posts about the episode, this seemed to be a bone of contention for a lot of fans.

my least favourite this season was also kill the messenger.  i just felt like after such a great episode (vampire weekend) the two after (famous last words and kill the messenger) weren't as great.  by no means did i think they were terrible, but just felt less than amazing.

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December 15, 2009


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Wow! Famous last words is one of my favorite episodes. I love it that Castle shows some real backbone in the one. Running ahead of Beckett to check on Sky. And at the end where they are having the memorial concert, and they show him and Alexis.

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sarah_darling said:

I think some people didn't like Famous Last Words because it's not very shippy. Too many people are wanting just the Castle/Beckett relationship and hate when we don't get a "cherries" moment or what have you.

That's not why I think it's the weakest episode so far. I don't mind if I don't get shippy moments. I just thought the whole case was not very interesting to me. Plus, the whole sister cleaning up her act seemed too rushed and forced for a happy ending.

There were some good parts, but overall it didn't really work as well (for me) as the other episodes this season.

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December 16, 2009


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Becki said:Wow! Famous last words is one of my favorite episodes. I love it that Castle shows some real backbone in the one. Running ahead of Beckett to check on Sky. And at the end where they are having the memorial concert, and they show him and Alexis.

I can understand that Famous Last Words might not be some follks favorite: The underlying theme that led to Haley's murder can be very unsettling. Also, the emphasis on drugs and that culture might affect viewers attitude toward the episode.

Having said that, I consider Famous Last Words very engaging and extremely well done: Enlisting Brianna Haynes to play Haley Blue and … I can't say enough about Anna Waronker and her song Threshold. The words are amazingly well-written and fit the plotline like a glove. For several days the song has been playing in my mind. I think that is high praise indeed.

BTW, this episode was written by Jose Molina. It is definitely darker than usual. The music tie-in that's a part of this episode is on a par with the artistic tie-in with Vampire Weekend using original artwork by Jason Badower. Bottom line: The team that brings us Castle thinks outside the box and are using all the innovative methods that they can (as in the whole Nikki Heat/Heat Wave thing).

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December 17, 2009


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MathGuy said:

BTW, this episode was written by Jose Molina. It is definitely darker than usual. The music tie-in that's a part of this episode is on a par with the artistic tie-in with Vampire Weekend using original artwork by Jason Badower. Bottom line: The team that brings us Castle thinks outside the box and are using all the innovative methods that they can (as in the whole Nikki Heat/Heat Wave thing).

I agree, the Castle team is very outside the box and creative.  There is also the WriteRCastle twitter account, the Ryan Report blog, they set up a website for The Blue Pill Band, that looked like a real band website and also for Vixen from Vampire Weekend.  Pretty creative and fun stuff. 
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