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Episode 3 – Hedge Fund Homeboys

Air Date: March 23, 2009

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A once wealthy teenage boy whose family has fallen on hard times is found dead in a rowboat floating along the lake in Central Park. As Castle and Beckett try to piece together the events leading up to his death, his friends do everything in their power to thwart the investigation. As they unravel the truth from the lies, a story of betrayal and obsession emerges. Meanwhile, Castle debates whether he can leave Martha home alone while he chaperones Alexis’ class trip to Washington, DC. Martha might be an aspiring “Life Coach,” but that doesn’t mean she’s trustworthy.

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How many people are watching tonight? Episode 1 had 11.8 million viewers, Episode 2 had 11.5 – anybody's guess as to what this week will be but here's hoping that it does even better this week! Can't wait for the news of Season 2 – I'm confident we'll hear something official before too long. The response to the show has been very positive for the most part.

I hate not having the opportunity to watch live – I'm envious of the rest of you!

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March 23, 2009

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How many people are watching tonight? Episode 1 had 11.8 million viewers, Episode 2 had 11.5 – anybody's guess as to what this week will be but here's hoping that it does even better this week! Can't wait for the news of Season 2 – I'm confident we'll hear something official before too long. The response to the show has been very positive for the most part.

I hate not having the opportunity to watch live – I'm envious of the rest of you!

I am watching as I type. Lots of twist in this episode and much darker. I am sure we'll be hearing about Season 2 also, each week keeps getting better. How long until you get to see it? Your in Australia, right?

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March 23, 2009

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Yes, I am

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9:55 pm
March 23, 2009

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Is Castle broadcasting there or do you watch it on the net?

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March 23, 2009

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Is Castle broadcasting there or do you watch it on the net?

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March 24, 2009

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I thought Molly Quinn did an amazing job confessing her 'sin'. I was ready for just about anything and NF's response was perfect. I'm completely going nutz over the developing relationship there. On the other hand, I'm not so much loving the representation of Mom as an alcoholic. It's a serious addiction and I really dislike making it 'cute'. Where's the episode where that's discussed?

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9:51 am
March 24, 2009

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Did anyone else notice a lack of details present in the first two episodes that wasn’t there last night? What happened to our writer with rock star status? He told no tall tales, he filled in no gaps. We didn’t see him writing, struggling with the “business,” or him even gettingout his lap top. Not to mention, there were no calls to the mayor or him skipping to the front of the line. I missed Castle, the blockbuster. Last night he was just some guy on a ride-along, there to help solve a crime. Is he quitting it all and headed to the police academy? I missed the guy who visits crime scenes for inspiration and sees murder as an opportunity for copy. Anyone else feeling the loss?

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March 24, 2009

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6:08 pm
March 24, 2009

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Amy Goodwin said:

Did anyone else notice a lack of details present in the first two episodes that wasn’t there last night? What happened to our writer with rock star status? He told no tall tales, he filled in no gaps. We didn’t see him writing, struggling with the “business,” or him even gettingout his lap top. Not to mention, there were no calls to the mayor or him skipping to the front of the line. I missed Castle, the blockbuster. Last night he was just some guy on a ride-along, there to help solve a crime. Is he quitting it all and headed to the police academy? I missed the guy who visits crime scenes for inspiration and sees murder as an opportunity for copy. Anyone else feeling the loss?

He did mention going to a Nicks game with the Mayor, and we saw him with his laptop out but he'd fallen asleep.

I know what you mean, though. In the pilot, Kate says that he's incapable of taking anything seriously, but he seems more serious in the subsequent episodes. I miss the nine-year-old-on-a-sugar-rush. Laugh

Also, I'm wondering, if he's so famous how come nobody says anything? Is it too much to ask that a murder suspect see him and say "OMG, Rick Castle?! Sign my chest!" . . . or something. haha

I don't mean to be negative, though, as I'm loving it anyway. I didn't like Alexis in this episode, but other than that, I'm loving it.

6:23 pm
March 24, 2009

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I loved that his laptop screensaver was a message telling him he should be writing!

Some people do say things about being a fan, like the medical examiner when she first meets him, most of the other references happen off-screen and we just get to hear Rick say “….. 's a fan….” I think we'll see others react more in future epiosdes, at least I hope so, it could be funny Laugh

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March 24, 2009

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Did anyone else notice a lack of details present in the first two episodes that wasn’t there last night? What happened to our writer with rock star status? He told no tall tales, he filled in no gaps. We didn’t see him writing, struggling with the “business,” or him even gettingout his lap top. Not to mention, there were no calls to the mayor or him skipping to the front of the line. I missed Castle, the blockbuster. Last night he was just some guy on a ride-along, there to help solve a crime. Is he quitting it all and headed to the police academy? I missed the guy who visits crime scenes for inspiration and sees murder as an opportunity for copy. Anyone else feeling the loss?

He did mention going to a Nicks game with the Mayor, and we saw him with his laptop out but he'd fallen asleep.

I know what you mean, though. In the pilot, Kate says that he's incapable of taking anything seriously, but he seems more serious in the subsequent episodes. I miss the nine-year-old-on-a-sugar-rush.

Also, I'm wondering, if he's so famous how come nobody says anything? Is it too much to ask that a murder suspect see him and say “OMG, Rick Castle?! Sign my chest!” . . . or something. haha

I don't mean to be negative, though, as I'm loving it anyway. I didn't like Alexis in this episode, but other than that, I'm loving it.

Thanks to all who replied. I think my expectations are pretty high at this point. I love the show. I'm telling everyone I know to watch it, so maybe I'm getting a little hypercritical…like a parent who wants to make sure my child's hair is combed and looks their best every time they make an appearance. It's a great show. There is so much I love about it. I'm glad to have some folks to talk to about it with!

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March 24, 2009

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Thanks to all who replied. I think my expectations are pretty high at this point. I love the show. I'm telling everyone I know to watch it, so maybe I'm getting a little hypercritical…like a parent who wants to make sure my child's hair is combed and looks their best every time they make an appearance. It's a great show. There is so much I love about it. I'm glad to have some folks to talk to about it with!

I'm concerned about what the audience is thinking too. Why did this episode get lower raitings? 9.8, down from 11.4 last week (but those end up being adjusted down later?) Wondering if other viewers are thinking along those same lines that you pointed out, or thinking the show is too serious? But most of the chatter I've seen online, people like the 2nd and 3rd episodes better than the pilot. And apparently people considered Rick to be a bit of an insensitive jerk in the pilot (and I prefered him that way, not sure what that says about me! Cool )

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March 25, 2009

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Thanks to all who replied. I think my expectations are pretty high at this point. I love the show. I'm telling everyone I know to watch it, so maybe I'm getting a little hypercritical…like a parent who wants to make sure my child's hair is combed and looks their best every time they make an appearance. It's a great show. There is so much I love about it. I'm glad to have some folks to talk to about it with!

I'm concerned about what the audience is thinking too. Why did this episode get lower raitings? 9.8, down from 11.4 last week (but those end up being adjusted down later?) Wondering if other viewers are thinking along those same lines that you pointed out, or thinking the show is too serious? But most of the chatter I've seen online, people like the 2nd and 3rd episodes better than the pilot. And apparently people considered Rick to be a bit of an insensitive jerk in the pilot (and I prefered him that way, not sure what that says about me!)

How do you know that about the ratings? Where do you find that out?

I do wonder what the drop in ratings says about the show. I can imagine it's hard to keep 11.4 M people happy. I do think you can't go wrong with humor and levity, both lacking in the last episode. I hate to harp on the writing, but I noticed episode 3 had a different writer, David Gae. Episodes 1 & 2 both credit Andrew Marlowe (episode 1 just Andrew) and episode 2 Andrew Marlowe and Barry Schnindel. I can't help but think that since the show is in it's infancy, they need to keep its creator at the helm. They can't afford to jeopardize his vision. (David Gae did a fine job, he just had a different vision of the character in episode 3.) The same thing happened with Six Feet Under. (Loved that show). One could tell when the creator wrote the episode, and when he didn't. Who knows what sort of "behind the scenes" political machinations go into bringing us the finished product, but to the powers that be, I'd say DON'T DO ANOTHER EPISODE without Andrew. I don't want this show cancelled!!!! What would I do with myself on Monday night? Wink

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March 25, 2009

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I get the ratings numbers from http://tvbythenumbers.com

I don't actually know how involved Andrew Marlowe is, but I'd imagine he'd have approval over the final product. But I'm thinking of how Joss Whedon works . . . he has his team of writers, but approves everything every step of the way and rewrites things here and there. That's the only instance where I've heard about how tv writing works, so that's all I have to go by, ha ha.

Humor and levity are what separate Castle from the other procedurals out there, so it seems like they'd want to keep at that. There were some fun moments in this episode though. I loved Kate grabbing Castle's ear when he was trying to listen in on her phone call. And his cell phone using that Bach music and he says "I hear dead people" . . . Kiss (I also laughed pretty hard at Alexis, but I'm not sure that was intentional on the writer's part.)

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March 25, 2009

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Amy Goodwin said:

Did anyone else notice a lack of details present in the first two episodes that wasn’t there last night? What happened to our writer with rock star status? He told no tall tales, he filled in no gaps. We didn’t see him writing, struggling with the “business,” or him even gettingout his lap top. Not to mention, there were no calls to the mayor or him skipping to the front of the line. I missed Castle, the blockbuster. Last night he was just some guy on a ride-along, there to help solve a crime. Is he quitting it all and headed to the police academy? I missed the guy who visits crime scenes for inspiration and sees murder as an opportunity for copy. Anyone else feeling the loss?

I'm not sure he wasn't more serious/less opportunistic in this episode because the deaths of the kids were hitting close to home because of his daughter. We got to see 'Castle, the parent', who surprisingly raised a responsible, mature child. NF is awesome…I, too, push this show on everyone.

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March 25, 2009

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I'm concerned about what the audience is thinking too. Why did this episode get lower raitings? 9.8, down from 11.4 last week (but those end up being adjusted down later?) Wondering if other viewers are thinking along those same lines that you pointed out, or thinking the show is too serious? But most of the chatter I've seen online, people like the 2nd and 3rd episodes better than the pilot. And apparently people considered Rick to be a bit of an insensitive jerk in the pilot (and I prefered him that way, not sure what that says about me!)

I can tell you why the numbers from previous weeks dropped a little: those initial numbers include the last few minutes of Dancing With the Stars that squeezes into the 10:00 hour. So some of the initial audience doesn't really belong to Castle. (This info is somewhere on the Tv By the Numbers site, btw.)

I don't know for sure how the numbers work, but wouldn't the drop from last week to this week be more indicative of people who weren't as intrigued by the second episode, and so didn't tune back in this week?

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March 27, 2009

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I can tell you why the numbers from previous weeks dropped a little: those initial numbers include the last few minutes of Dancing With the Stars that squeezes into the 10:00 hour. So some of the initial audience doesn't really belong to Castle. (This info is somewhere on the Tv By the Numbers site, btw.)

I don't know for sure how the numbers work, but wouldn't the drop from last week to this week be more indicative of people who weren't as intrigued by the second episode, and so didn't tune back in this week?

Do you think they pay attention to how many people go to their website to watch the show? I'm sure ABC exec's look at those numbers. I believe more and more people are watching TV shows on their computers.

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March 27, 2009

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I'm told they do consider the "record to watch later" numbers as well as the "watch on the website" numbers, but those usually get added into the total later than "watch live on TV" numbers since they aren't activities that happen immediately. Though I expect they don't wait indefinitely for those numbers. I'm guessing the final numbers posted (as opposed to the overnight numbers) are the "official" ones they look at.

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March 28, 2009

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Laura said:

Also, I'm wondering, if he's so famous how come nobody says anything? Is it too much to ask that a murder suspect see him and say “OMG, Rick Castle?! Sign my chest!” . . . or something. haha

That's what I've been wanting. I want more people swooning over Castle. I also kind of wish they did more with the fact that Beckett owns all of his books, and knows them reasonably well. Like a joke here and there about it. You'd think Castle would kind of hold her to it.

I agree with others in saying I missed the humor, but it was still really entertaining for me. Maybe it was more entertaining for me because I'm just getting done with going to a private high school, and I find depictions of it really humorous. Because it's really not just rich snooty people. Well, there ARE rich snooty people who go to my school, but not all of them. I also had a "I relate with you!" moment with Alexis, because that's definitely how I'd act. I feel guilty/stressed about everything.

Not as good as episodes one and two, but still nice. I really am liking the progression of the relationship between Castle and Beckett. It never feels forced; it feels very much like a natural progression of them getting used to each other; it greatly reminds me of the progression of the relationship of Mulder and Scully on The X-Files.

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"Hedge Fund Homeboys" is on right now, and the scene where Beckett and Castle go talk to the drug dealer (Scoville) again is one of my favourites. The guy's lawyer–Yankman–is just sleazy, but damn hilarious, and their exchange implies that they have some history. I couldn't help but think that it would be nice to see him pop up again, Beckett's obvious distaste towards him is just fabulous, and he seems like the type of guy who would take every opportunity to hit on her/ask her out/try to prove that he's the king turd of poop island. That little scene is quite deliciuos, I would really like to see them do some more with that particular character and his 'relationship' (I don't mean romantic, just in general, she would never give the sleazeball a second look) with Beckett.

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Where are you that Castle was just on? Or were you watching online/DVR?

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Of course, I forgot that Canada is airing the repeats on Fridays instead of Saturdays like the US.

Hope lot sof people are watching Episode 3 on ABC tonight! Someone will have to report and let us know if they advertise the Heat Wave book! I know it's unlikely they will this early, it's a few more weeks before the first chapter will be online, but I hope they do all the same.

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Yep, Friday nights on CTV in Canada :)

And yes, I look forward to hearing about the advertising for the Heat Wave book, I don't know if we'll be seeing it over here. Come to think of it, I'm a tad worried that I won't be able to actually read the online bits because of the ridiculous regional restrictions. That would be very frustrating.

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