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The Hollywood Reporter, 12-06-10, interview with Nathan Fillion. **SPOILERS**
December 7, 2010
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Oh I don't think there will be any fighting once Beckett knows that Castle really wants her. The real fight will be with Beckett only and that's about whether to take the risk or stay with the safe guy.

December 7, 2010
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Shadows_21 said:

Oh I don't think there will be any fighting once Beckett knows that Castle really wants her. The real fight will be with Beckett only and that's about whether to take the risk or stay with the safe guy.


 

You're probably right, but if the fight is with Beckett and her heart, Josh pulling out all the stops and, in her mind, perhaps, being the safer choice, it might throw a bit of a monkey wrench in the whole process.  (that's a lot of commas.)

December 7, 2010
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Leftfield said:

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I read this story at work and squeed again.  A full-blown make-out session implies, at least to me, that Beckett may be taken by surprise initially, but at some point gets into it as much as Castle.  Wahoo!

My excitement, though, is tempered by the fact that she will probably feel guilty about kissing Castle regardless of who breaks up with who, and backs off.  My bet is that they have this kiss, one of them breaks up with their SO (I'm thinking Castle dumps Gina), and the one still in a relationship spends the rest of the season trying to figure out who they want to be with.  And if Castle does dump Gina, I hope he fights for Beckett after this kiss, like someone else said, rather than sitting and stewing like he did when Beckett was with Demming. 

Totally looking forward to this and the resulting aftermath!   Bounce2


 

I've been thinking, and I don't even know if this the best place to put this  When we talk about Castle in conjunction with Josh, the consensis seems to be that we all want Castle to find his man card and fight for Beckett this time around, as opposed to giving up the field to Josh as he did with Demming.  And I wholeheartedly agree.  I've also see a lot of discussion regarding Josh's potential response to the realization that Kate is in love with Castle, if, of course, he makes that realization.  The consensus to this scenario for the most part, seems to be the Josh will somehow bow out of the picture, either with grace or without.  But……and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that this has been discussed, what if Josh decides to really pull out all the stops and fight for Kate?  Could be interesting, Castle and Josh going mano e mono.  This might explain the fact that it seems that Josh is going to be around a bit longer that Gina, if that is indeed the case? 


That is a very interesting point. I never really thought of the possiblilty of Josh fighting for Beckett. However, I feel that Josh somehow knows how Kate feels about Castle and while he might fight a little bit, I think deep down he knows he's going to loose to Castle because of the way he said "Oh, your that writer?" when they first met. Like, he knows their history and their connection and all that. Also, after the kiss, Kate could become more distant from him and Josh will most likely think something is up and I think with the spoilers given by Victor Webster with saying that with the intro of his character, castle and Beckett will realize that they want to be together and whatever. 

 

I can totally picture a scene with Josh finally coming to the realization of Kates feelings for Castle and her and him talking and she feeling guilty but Josh saying "I just want you to be happy and if he makes you happy, then who am I to stand in the way" Which basically shows that he cares enough about her to let her go. Which I think would show what a good guy he is, but he's just not the right person for kate. And if you switch some things around, I can picture the same sort of sencerio with Castle and Gina.

 

With this, they can show the auidence that they were worthy relationships but they just weren't quite right for them.

December 7, 2010
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Leftfield said:

Shadows_21 said:

Oh I don't think there will be any fighting once Beckett knows that Castle really wants her. The real fight will be with Beckett only and that's about whether to take the risk or stay with the safe guy.


 

You're probably right, but if the fight is with Beckett and her heart, Josh pulling out all the stops and, in her mind, perhaps, being the safer choice, it might throw a bit of a monkey wrench in the whole process.  (that's a lot of commas.)


It will be just the basic 'heart vs. mind' philosophy.

I think Josh can 'woo' her all he wants, but as it's been said so many times before, 'the heart wants what the heart wants.' Her heart wants the risk (Castle), but the mind is telling her to be cautious and protect herself (Josh). I just don't think that Josh's actions will make any difference to her decision because he's not what she's conflicted about, Castle is. I would call Josh the fallback guy, the safety net she can fall into while she continues to fight denial.

December 7, 2010
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But……and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that this has been discussed, what if Josh decides to really pull out all the stops and fight for Kate?  Could be interesting, Castle and Josh going mano e mono.  This might explain the fact that it seems that Josh is going to be around a bit longer that Gina, if that is indeed the case?

 

Hand and Monkey – LOLLaugh. Kind of like in season 1, Ghosts where Castle and Beckett have the "running poker game" where each throws their hand in deference to the other. But at the end Castle says: "mano y mujer" — Hand and Woman, not mano y mano — hand and hand or hombre y mujer – Man and Woman. Probably should have an "a" (to) rather than a "y" (and) in-between the words (mano a mano).

December 7, 2010
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But……and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that this has been discussed, what if Josh decides to really pull out all the stops and fight for Kate?

 

OK a more serious comment….

If Josh decides to "fight" for Beckett, I believe that he will get to the same place Gina is –> "Oh, I see you already have plans" like she said this season in "Anatomy of a Murder". (Last night) in "Last Call" Castle called Beckett late and she said that she was "tucked in with Josh and laptop" (implied) when she left him to come to see what Castle was coming up with.

I think that the SO's will get tired of "always being second" to the "Work Wife/ Work Husband" and that will bring both relationships to an end. Just that Gina will get there first.

December 7, 2010
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Nev827 said:

I read this story at work and squeed again.  A full-blown make-out session implies, at least to me, that Beckett may be taken by surprise initially, but at some point gets into it as much as Castle.  Wahoo!

My excitement, though, is tempered by the fact that she will probably feel guilty about kissing Castle regardless of who breaks up with who, and backs off.  My bet is that they have this kiss, one of them breaks up with their SO (I'm thinking Castle dumps Gina), and the one still in a relationship spends the rest of the season trying to figure out who they want to be with.  And if Castle does dump Gina, I hope he fights for Beckett after this kiss, like someone else said, rather than sitting and stewing like he did when Beckett was with Demming. 

Totally looking forward to this and the resulting aftermath!   Bounce2


Oh he better fight, especially since it looks like Beckett responds to him positively.   I hated Castle stepping aside in Season 2 and then feeling sorry for himself while he watched Demming and Beckett.

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December 7, 2010
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jrabbit said:

But……and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that this has been discussed, what if Josh decides to really pull out all the stops and fight for Kate?  Could be interesting, Castle and Josh going mano e mono.  This might explain the fact that it seems that Josh is going to be around a bit longer that Gina, if that is indeed the case?

 

Hand and Monkey – LOLLaugh. Kind of like in season 1, Ghosts where Castle and Beckett have the "running poker game" where each throws their hand in deference to the other. But at the end Castle says: "mano y mujer" — Hand and Woman, not mano y mano — hand and hand or hombre y mujer – Man and Woman. Probably should have an "a" (to) rather than a "y" (and) in-between the words (mano a mano).


 

Hey, I looked that up in the urban dictionary before posting!  Precisely because I didn't know how to spell it.  I didn't know this, apparently, it originated with bull fighting, referring to the battle between man and bull.  Lean something everyday.   

December 7, 2010
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That's a good point, Leftfield.  I'd love to see Castle put up a fight either way and I can't say I know enough about Josh to guess at whether he'd fight back or step aside gracefully.  I keep thinking about what Andrew Marlowe said about how Castle & Beckett would be in worthy relationships this year, but not with the right people.  Based on that, I'd like to think he'd realize that Castle is who Beckett wants. 

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December 7, 2010
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Nev827 said:

That's a good point, Leftfield.  I'd love to see Castle put up a fight either way and I can't say I know enough about Josh to guess at whether he'd fight back or step aside gracefully.  I keep thinking about what Andrew Marlowe said about how Castle & Beckett would be in worthy relationships this year, but not with the right people.  Based on that, I'd like to think he'd realize that Castle is who Beckett wants. 


 

I guess the question might be, how long will it take for Josh to get to that point?

December 7, 2010
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One thing I'd like to see (although, I'll admit, its a little mean) is Josh/Gina breaking up with Beckett/Castle instead of the other way around- but not because they thought it wouldn't work. For me to "like" them dumping Castle/Beckett, they should mention that their feelings for the other was obvious and it would be better for both if they broke up (maybe provide a little push as well). 

 

Besides, I'm sensing a break up really soon. If a couple breaks up before the kiss, then I think it will be Castle and Gina. But if there is no breakup before the kiss, then I'm suspecting Beckett and Josh will break up first (followed by Castle and Gina). This is because I don't think Beckett could live with kissing someone else (and from what they've said, it doesn't seem to be for undercover purposes) and then going back to Josh. Although I think that Castle couldn't live with that either (he doesn't seem like the cheating type- Meredith), I think he's still going to wait a little longer simply because it would provide us a chance to see Beckett in Castle's situation at the end of Season 2.

 

There's my rant. Hope you enjoyed! Laugh

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December 7, 2010
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One thing I'd like to see (although, I'll admit, its a little mean) is Josh/Gina breaking up with Beckett/Castle instead of the other way around- but not because they thought it wouldn't work. For me to "like" them dumping Castle/Beckett, they should mention that their feelings for the other was obvious and it would be better for both if they broke up (maybe provide a little push as well). 

 

Besides, I'm sensing a break up really soon. If a couple breaks up before the kiss, then I think it will be Castle and Gina. But if there is no breakup before the kiss, then I'm suspecting Beckett and Josh will break up first (followed by Castle and Gina). This is because I don't think Beckett could live with kissing someone else (and from what they've said, it doesn't seem to be for undercover purposes) and then going back to Josh. Although I think that Castle couldn't live with that either (he doesn't seem like the cheating type- Meredith), I think he's still going to wait a little longer simply because it would provide us a chance to see Beckett in Castle's situation at the end of Season 2.

 

There's my rant. Hope you enjoyed! Laugh

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December 7, 2010
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I think SK mentioned seeing intimate scenes between J/B, but VW hasn't been around to film any yet.

December 7, 2010
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i hope the writers don't go that route,because it would shed a very bad light on kb.

December 7, 2010
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zillionz said:

One thing I'd like to see (although, I'll admit, its a little mean) is Josh/Gina breaking up with Beckett/Castle instead of the other way around- but not because they thought it wouldn't work. For me to "like" them dumping Castle/Beckett, they should mention that their feelings for the other was obvious and it would be better for both if they broke up (maybe provide a little push as well). 


I agree. My view is that having C/B break off their respective relationship(s) would seem to be selfish. I would lose respect for the characters. It would be better to have the SOs to get tired of seeing the obvious chemistry from the outside and be the ones to break it off.

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