OK here is my take on this. It seems to be only Stana fans who have a problem with the Firefly references and my reply is "get over it!", I'm sure they would have no problem if it was Stana's earlier work being very obscurely referred to?

LOL!  That's not true in my case.  I like both Nathan and Stana equally.  As I said earlier, I didn't know who Nathan was prior to Castle and the same goes for Stana. 

I always tend to gravitate towards the law/crime shows too!  It seems that it's either that or medical shows.  Castle and Bones are my must see shows.

No one has any problems with the Frank Miller comments, right?  So it's ok to reference Stana's previous work but not Nathan's?

Then again, I don't recall hearing gripes about the nods to One Life To Live or Buffy, so it seems to me that people are only griping about the Firefly allusions. 

Why so much hating on Firefly?  Admin, I am just as baffled as you are.  Where is this coming from?

(I'd be willing to bet that most of the ones of you who are griping about Firefly have never seen it.  And therein lies the problem.  Don't knock it 'til you try it.)

And there you have reason #1 for doing it.  Thanks for coming on board Andie! :D

I don't have any problems with the Firefly references. Honestly, I don't even see it as being that many. Yeah, a few in the Halloween episode, but the whole cast kind of had various throw backs to their previous work. Stana had the line about Frank Miller, at the party, costumes were a throw back… it wasn't overt or obnoxious.

I admit, I don't want to relive Firefly repeatedly in a discussion about Castle but that is the doing of fans, not Nathan Fillion or the writers of Castle by any means.

Firefly Bree said:

GreenyJess said:

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HA!!  Bree, you got more Firefly refs into that post than they got into that entire episode.  Shiny.

Now I think they need to come up with a reason for Castle to curse in Chinese, don't you? ;)

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Thanks, I try!  What will be bad is when I start talking like them in real conversations…I've been sane for a good long while now, maybe it's time for a little crazy.  The idea of cursing in Chinese is definitely shiny.  Castle could pull it off if anyone could!

Nathan HATED the Chinese, he was talking to Joss about it on the Firefly commentary and agreed the cast could have cheerfully strangled him for it. Joss was totally unrepentent about it.

Welcome Bree, I love Firefly too, I only discovered it when I saw Nathan in Castle and had to back track to get the rest of his movies.

And the obsession continues with the episode 13 director! hehe.

We've had 19 episodes so far, and in ONE of them Nathan Fillion had on the Firefly costume (in an episode that also referenced Nathan's other show Buffy, and Seamus', Jon's and Stana's previous roles, Alexis' movie being mentioned in another episode), the other Firefly references are really too obscure to notice except for the really dedicated, TWO episodes with Firefly references in total, as far as I remember.

Castle reference movies all the time. By chance, I've actually seen Quicksilver with Kevin Bacon. Was that reference annoying for those who's not seen it? I've not seen Cape Fear with Robert deNiro. Could still enjoy the references to it.

So, as itsmyworld said, it's not the show or Nathan, it's the fans that keep bringing up Firefly. Since Firefly has a huge and loyal following, it clever to cater a bit to them.

I didn't know Nathan Fillion outside Firefly and had never heard about Stana Katic, I wouldn't have watched Castle if I didn't see in previews that it was with "the guy from Firefly", (allthough I'm totally a Stanatic by now). So, it's clever by the creators to lure Firefly fans into watching Castle by giving them a little nod. Like they also attracted vampire fans with episode 2x06. And a lot of Alyssa Milano fans will tune in coming next year (she has almost 400000 followers on twitter, and is tweeting with Nathan about Castle, so her fans might be checking out Castle already). Mystery book fans tune in because of Heat Wave. A good and differentiated strategy from ABC.

And since we have different interests, we'll be obsessed by different sides of the show. I think the use of the Firefly costume was hilarious, the scene being very balanced, with Alexis playing the role of the critics on this forum. Personally, I can't understand other fans' obsession about Beckett's hair and clothes, and got tired of those posts within the regular episode discussions. But whenever these kinds of posts have their own thread, I can just skip reading them.

Point is, if we have topics that are a bit on the side, just create a separate thread about it, so people can skip it according to interst.

And cut Nathan some slack. Firefly was the best time of his life, and he meets fans of it all the time. Of course he likes to talk about it with Browncoats. Just like we love to meet here on this forum obsessing about Castle…

unniw said:

We've had 19 episodes so far, and in ONE of them Nathan Fillion had on the Firefly costume (in an episode that also referenced Nathan's other show Buffy, and Seamus', Jon's and Stana's previous roles, Alexis' movie being mentioned in another episode), the other Firefly references are really too obscure to notice except for the really dedicated, TWO episodes with Firefly references in total, as far as I remember.

Castle reference movies all the time. By chance, I've actually seen Quicksilver with Kevin Bacon. Was that reference annoying for those who's not seen it? I've not seen Cape Fear with Robert deNiro. Could still enjoy the references to it.

So, as itsmyworld said, it's not the show or Nathan, it's the fans that keep bringing up Firefly. Since Firefly has a huge and loyal following, it clever to cater a bit to them.

I didn't know Nathan Fillion outside Firefly and had never heard about Stana Katic, I wouldn't have watched Castle if I didn't see in previews that it was with "the guy from Firefly", (allthough I'm totally a Stanatic by now). So, it's clever by the creators to lure Firefly fans into watching Castle by giving them a little nod. Like they also attracted vampire fans with episode 2x06. And a lot of Alyssa Milano fans will tune in coming next year (she has almost 400000 followers on twitter, and is tweeting with Nathan about Castle, so her fans might be checking out Castle already). Mystery book fans tune in because of Heat Wave. A good and differentiated strategy from ABC.

And since we have different interests, we'll be obsessed by different sides of the show. I think the use of the Firefly costume was hilarious, the scene being very balanced, with Alexis playing the role of the critics on this forum. Personally, I can't understand other fans' obsession about Beckett's hair and clothes, and got tired of those posts within the regular episode discussions. But whenever these kinds of posts have their own thread, I can just skip reading them.

Point is, if we have topics that are a bit on the side, just create a separate thread about it, so people can skip it according to interst.

And cut Nathan some slack. Firefly was the best time of his life, and he meets fans of it all the time. Of course he likes to talk about it with Browncoats. Just like we love to meet here on this forum obsessing about Castle…

Very well said. And I most definately agree with everything you said.

sarah_darling said:

castlefan said:If you haven't notice, we haven't heard much from the person who started this thread!!

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I noticed that…

Yep me too, oh well maybe she didn't like being proved wrong?