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4:51 pm
May 12, 2010


Terry2010

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posts 20

My wife and I love Castle and it is our #1 show to watch.  However over the last couple of episodes we do not like the direction.

 

My problem is the new boyfriend.  The relationship really seems to be hitting it off fast for Beckett to the point Castle is now an after thought.Sad

Maybe I am little too hard looking but she left Castle in the observation room and walk off with "whats his name".   There is no longer any flirting between them.  How can there be now, she is getting involved with someone else and the playfullness of there friendship is no dead.

Now this could be leading up to something in the final but its killing there relationship now.  If she leaves "whats his name" then Castle becomes the rebound?  Thats not a good thing.  The man ran into a burning building for her and now she can not give him the time of day.  She knew Castle brought her coffee in the morning, nope just dump it in the trash. 

If what I read is right about Castle's other wife, I would not agree with it as the samething would be happening only on his part.  I did not mind them dating but serious relationship.  Why is Castle even there anymore?  He just gets frustrated, I think he is man enough to not want to see Beckett hurt so not sure if he will interfere with the relationship. 

I do not know.  I can watch episodes over and over and over again.  But the last couple I do not care to watch repeatedly.  Cry

I know the writers must want there things going this way but to me there killing the friendship plus possible romance later.

Castle – get out now, cancel the book and move on. 

<grumble>

Wife says I am too serious Crazy

5:02 pm
May 12, 2010


sarah_darling

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posts 1626

You make some really valid points…

Becklers do it with the beckle on.

http://www.swagbucks.com/refer…..rahdarling

5:17 pm
May 12, 2010


Nev827

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posts 3279

Hi Terry.  I'm sorry you feel that way and I really hope you stick it out.  The writers and crew have said that Castle & Beckett WILL get together, so we just need to hang in there.  I'm sure they knew that bringing Demming in would cause lots of concern and angst amongst the fans so your reaction is totally understandable.  It may not happen with the coming season finale, but I'm sure they've got a lot of good stuff in store for us in the future. 

And I admit, I miss their flirting too. 

"Make you a deal," she said. "I'll watch my ass, you watch the crowd."

- Nikki Heat in Heat Wave

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5:23 pm
May 12, 2010


Cas-kett

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posts 351

The banter and flirting is missed by me as well.

I do hate how Kate walks by Castle now without even noticing him, and it's just not the same. But hopefully the writers have something good planned for the finale and next season…without Schlemming around.

"Well, we were just doing our job. Actually, I was doing my job. I don’t know what the hell he was doing." ~Beckett

5:49 pm
May 12, 2010


castlefan88

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posts 102

Terry2010 said:

My wife and I love Castle and it is our #1 show to watch.  However over the last couple of episodes we do not like the direction.

 

My problem is the new boyfriend.  The relationship really seems to be hitting it off fast for Beckett to the point Castle is now an after thought.Sad

Maybe I am little too hard looking but she left Castle in the observation room and walk off with "whats his name".   There is no longer any flirting between them.  How can there be now, she is getting involved with someone else and the playfullness of there friendship is no dead.

Now this could be leading up to something in the final but its killing there relationship now.  If she leaves "whats his name" then Castle becomes the rebound?  Thats not a good thing.  The man ran into a burning building for her and now she can not give him the time of day.  She knew Castle brought her coffee in the morning, nope just dump it in the trash. 

If what I read is right about Castle's other wife, I would not agree with it as the samething would be happening only on his part.  I did not mind them dating but serious relationship.  Why is Castle even there anymore?  He just gets frustrated, I think he is man enough to not want to see Beckett hurt so not sure if he will interfere with the relationship. 

I do not know.  I can watch episodes over and over and over again.  But the last couple I do not care to watch repeatedly.  Cry

I know the writers must want there things going this way but to me there killing the friendship plus possible romance later.

Castle – get out now, cancel the book and move on. 

<grumble>

Wife says I am too serious Crazy


 

I agree with you I am not watching the show three times now for the last two episode.  I also miss the banter and yes maybe Beckett is not the same as Castle is not the same also as he is not the same as how he deals with Beckett. Castle does not have the chance to be with Beckett as D is always there.  Doesnt D has his own job to do?

 

 

6:02 pm
May 12, 2010


Cas-kett

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 351

@castlefan88 That's what I'm always saying too lol

There are a lot of unsolved robberies going on in New York City, because he is always upstairs in Homicide with our guys!

"Well, we were just doing our job. Actually, I was doing my job. I don’t know what the hell he was doing." ~Beckett

6:48 pm
May 12, 2010


Van

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 203

Thank you Terry.  Finally someone else has pointed out the importance of the coffee.  She is wrong on so many levels. AngrySmile

 

CastleFan…LOL!!!!!!!!ROFL

6:50 pm
May 12, 2010


really?

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 481

and…. you just pointed out all the frustration in one go. THANK YOU.

6:53 pm
May 12, 2010


sarah_darling

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 1626

Cas-kett said:

@castlefan88 That's what I'm always saying too lol

There are a lot of unsolved robberies going on in New York City, because he is always upstairs in Homicide with our guys!


 

Yeah! He's totally wasting tax payer's money. Bounce2

Becklers do it with the beckle on.

http://www.swagbucks.com/refer…..rahdarling

7:17 pm
May 12, 2010


castle_lover45

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 175

Terry2010 said:

My problem is the new boyfriend.  The relationship really seems to be hitting it off fast for Beckett to the point Castle is now an after thought.Sad

Maybe I am little too hard looking but she left Castle in the observation room and walk off with "whats his name".   There is no longer any flirting between them.  How can there be now, she is getting involved with someone else and the playfullness of there friendship is no dead.

 


 
This part I kind of agree with. But to me, the main thing that's been bugging me is the fact that we clearly saw her getting jealous a couple episodes ago, then last week, she was very obviously torn about having feelings for Castle but was afraid that he'd hurt her. We were practically smacked across the face with the idea that, yes, she likes him but is afraid to show it. Then, this week, it was like she could care less. She was perfectly happy brushing Caslte off for Demming and there was absolutely no indication that she was fighting internally about her two guys. It was pretty much, Demming was her boyfriend and who cares about Castle. How could her feelings just disappear like that? I understand that he might have brought the situation on himself a little by acting dumb, but it wasn't so much about him to me, as it was about her inner battle simply vanishing from the screen. It just didn't really jive, it seemed cut off for some reason. I don't know…does that make sense? Undecided

7:21 pm
May 12, 2010


really?

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 481

Totacastle_lover45 said:

Terry2010 said:

My problem is the new boyfriend.  The relationship really seems to be hitting it off fast for Beckett to the point Castle is now an after thought.Sad

Maybe I am little too hard looking but she left Castle in the observation room and walk off with "whats his name".   There is no longer any flirting between them.  How can there be now, she is getting involved with someone else and the playfullness of there friendship is no dead.

 


This part I kind of agree with. But to me, the main thing that's been bugging me is the fact that we clearly saw her getting jealous a couple episodes ago, then last week, she was very obviously torn about having feelings for Castle but was afraid that he'd hurt her. We were practically smacked across the face with the idea that, yes, she likes him but is afraid to show it. Then, this week, it was like she could care less. She was perfectly happy brushing Caslte off for Demming and there was absolutely no indication that she was fighting internally about her two guys. It was pretty much, Demming was her boyfriend and who cares about Castle. How could her feelings just disappear like that? I understand that he might have brought the situation on himself a little by acting dumb, but it wasn't so much about him to me, as it was about her inner battle simply vanishing from the screen. It just didn't really jive, it seemed cut off for some reason. I don't know…does that make sense? Undecided
 


Exactly… it's not cohesive at all. Especially if you look at last week's episode and this week's. One minute she's jealous of Castle going on a date… Next, she doesn't even notice he's there? Seriously?

7:26 pm
May 12, 2010


Terry2010

Castle Groupie

posts 20

LOL, thanks for the <smiles> Bounce2

I am glad I am not alone, besides the wife Love2

Nev827 – No worries, we will still continue to watch.  We just hope it goes back to what made it great.

Continuing my rant….(my wife is watching Vampire Weekend, her favorite episode Smile

Cas-ket you are so right about how she walks by him like he is not there.  I think they are taking things too far and too fast.  I personally do not think they need to get together this season or even next.  What I would like to see is this.  Castle and Beckett continue there friendship slowly moving closer.  Have Beckett come over to Castle house for dinner.  Have Castle invite her out to the zoo with him and Alexis, then kill a animal handler for the plot :)    I just think they both need to move closer friendship wise and that could easily last a year and then move romantic.  Remember how in the burning building she would not even let Castle see her naked, because it was not the time or place.  Bring back the fun.  I also really enjoy the police part of the show and how it brought everyone together.  We pray this does not turn into House or Bones and become a Drama with police <something> happening as a background. 

 

Reason why we really enjoyed the show.

- A teenage, young women who was smart, pretty and not looking like she should working the street or sleeping around at school.

- A good father, daughter relationship

- Martha as the women of reason Castle needs now and then

- Not everyone sleeping with everyone else.  (someone posted this in another thread so I agree with you :)

- Supporting cast, everyone is likeable.  I even like Pearlmutter Smile

- The show was funny and light hearted with there banter even though the murder could be grusome and tough to deal with

 

Ok, thanks for listening to my rant Sick

Smile

 

7:30 pm
May 12, 2010


Van

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 203

Yes Castle lover…..It makes perfect sense. So perfectly accurate.Cool

7:32 pm
May 12, 2010


Terry2010

Castle Groupie

posts 20

Castle_Lover45 – I love your Avatar picture.  Honey Milk…awsome Bounce

7:35 pm
May 12, 2010


sarah_darling

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 1626

newsstandgal said:

Totacastle_lover45 said:

Terry2010 said:

My problem is the new boyfriend.  The relationship really seems to be hitting it off fast for Beckett to the point Castle is now an after thought.Sad

Maybe I am little too hard looking but she left Castle in the observation room and walk off with "whats his name".   There is no longer any flirting between them.  How can there be now, she is getting involved with someone else and the playfullness of there friendship is no dead.

 


This part I kind of agree with. But to me, the main thing that's been bugging me is the fact that we clearly saw her getting jealous a couple episodes ago, then last week, she was very obviously torn about having feelings for Castle but was afraid that he'd hurt her. We were practically smacked across the face with the idea that, yes, she likes him but is afraid to show it. Then, this week, it was like she could care less. She was perfectly happy brushing Caslte off for Demming and there was absolutely no indication that she was fighting internally about her two guys. It was pretty much, Demming was her boyfriend and who cares about Castle. How could her feelings just disappear like that? I understand that he might have brought the situation on himself a little by acting dumb, but it wasn't so much about him to me, as it was about her inner battle simply vanishing from the screen. It just didn't really jive, it seemed cut off for some reason. I don't know…does that make sense? Undecided


Exactly… it's not cohesive at all. Especially if you look at last week's episode and this week's. One minute she's jealous of Castle going on a date… Next, she doesn't even notice he's there? Seriously?
 


 

And turning down his coffee… I just keep going back to that. It was one of the meanest things she could ever do to him. Castle supplying coffee to Kate is one of the biggest things he's always done for her!

Becklers do it with the beckle on.

http://www.swagbucks.com/refer…..rahdarling

7:41 pm
May 12, 2010


really?

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 481

Right? She always takes coffee from him! Even when it's HIS coffee – she takes it!Trouble_Maker

7:45 pm
May 12, 2010


castle_lover45

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 175

sarah_darling said:  

And turning down his coffee… I just keep going back to that. It was one of the meanest things she could ever do to him. Castle supplying coffee to Kate is one of the biggest things he's always done for her!


 

Yeah, I could see her doing it the once, absentmindedly in "Den of Theives" just because she was going to have to turn one of them down either way, and Demming was fist. So, I bought that one, if only for the fact that Castle does bring her coffee every morning so she probably thought, "Meh, he'll be fine." The once, I get, but the part that I don't like is that she keeps doing it. Espicially being who she is, I absolutely don't buy the idea that she doesn't realize how important it is to him. I mean, the man was literally running in early to bring her her coffee. Even if she didn't see the running itself, she's not an idiot. She's a frickin' cop for crying out loud! She has to see that he's all "hurt puppy" everytime she does that to him. C'mon Beckett! Throw the poor guy a bone!

 

Terry2010 said:

Castle_Lover45 – I love your Avatar picture.  Honey Milk…awsome Bounce


 

Thanks Terry2010, give the credit to Ashley_slomo though, she made it, I just loved it. Smile

8:00 pm
May 12, 2010


castlelover2010

New Member

posts 3

While i was bothered by the coffee stuff the thing that really got me was Demming sitting in Beckett's chair, if it was Castle she would've gotten mad.

8:08 pm
May 12, 2010


castle_lover45

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 175

He wascastlelover2010 said:

While i was bothered by the coffee stuff the thing that really got me was Demming sitting in Beckett's chair, if it was Castle she would've gotten mad.


 

He was sitting in her chair!? Totally didn't catch that. What an outrage! But, they've probably done it. Laugh Once, she and Castle do it then he'll probably be good to go, sitting her chair wise. haha! jk ;)

8:14 pm
May 12, 2010


sarah_darling

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 1626

newsstandgal said:

Right? She always takes coffee from him! Even when it's HIS coffee – she takes it!Trouble_Maker


 

She even liked watching him make her the coffee. ::cries:: I'm so sad!

Becklers do it with the beckle on.

http://www.swagbucks.com/refer…..rahdarling

8:38 pm
May 12, 2010


missemmy

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 58

Beckett did peek in on Castle after she kissed Denning, so he isn't completely invisible to her. Still, I agree that Beckett isn't her usual self. I miss the banter, too.

9:00 pm
May 12, 2010


Van

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 203

castle_lover45 said:

He wascastlelover2010 said:

While i was bothered by the coffee stuff the thing that really got me was Demming sitting in Beckett's chair, if it was Castle she would've gotten mad.


 
He was sitting in her chair!? Totally didn't catch that. What an outrage! But, they've probably done it. Laugh Once, she and Castle do it then he'll probably be good to go, sitting her chair wise. haha! jk ;)


 

Castlelover….

You think they've done it? Shock No. Take that back. I know it's probably been a while for Beckett but I have to believe the writers will save that part for Castle.  I mean the coffee is bad enough.   

9:03 pm
May 12, 2010


1892Rojas

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 209

Dare I point out, however, that the problem is not the bad turn in the said 'ship, but the fact that the writers have slowly abandoned a lot of the traits the lead exhibit in S1 – whch, I admit, wasn't perfect, but from poker-playing, smart-assy, ideas man, with an active set of skills (fencing, shooting) he's become a very sorry lapdog. Obviously the idea is that this would be so much funnier. I wouldn't dispute that on its merit, but the elements of the 'shipp changes, and they leveled the play field to her favor – something they've done since the pilot – check the newly added scenes and you'll see (they're easy to spot: her hair is different). They've also built her up prior to the book launch episode to match her fictitious alter ego, which I think was a mistake. And this is the logical corollary of all that. By making her more 'supercop' and lapdogging him to her, she has become more fictitious, and he, more real. It's kind of weird and very dissonant. But hey, we've never seen a show with such a watered-down, abused leading man, so I guess that's a novelty. So if it happens to be true what seems clear, that some lobbied, plotted to build up the female lead here, then the result hasn't quite matched expectations. On the contrary, that the male lead still sustains the show is a testament to the man's charisma. Let's see how S3 develops. 

9:06 pm
May 12, 2010


1892Rojas

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 209

sorry for my bad editing – - sometimes cutting things and the odd adverb hangs out there without proper form. but i didn't have time to write. and another thing: I don't intend to be mean by saying all this. I'm just pointing out what it seems the obvious, at least to me. Kind of, in a way, the way KB has handled her new 'ship, in a way, so I hope no offense anyone.

9:07 pm
May 12, 2010


Sandy (aka newsjunkie)

Hard Core Castle Groupie

posts 290

Van said:

castle_lover45 said:

He wascastlelover2010 said:

While i was bothered by the coffee stuff the thing that really got me was Demming sitting in Beckett's chair, if it was Castle she would've gotten mad.


He was sitting in her chair!? Totally didn't catch that. What an outrage! But, they've probably done it. Laugh Once, she and Castle do it then he'll probably be good to go, sitting her chair wise. haha! jk ;)
 


 

Castlelover….

You think they've done it? Shock No. Take that back. I know it's probably been a while for Beckett but I have to believe the writers will save that part for Castle.  I mean the coffee is bad enough.   


 

I have no doubt that they have.  Sorry, Van! Embarassed

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